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My future CCW...Kahr CW9 (mag issue)
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:34 am
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:34 am
Just picked it up yesterday.
I love how it feels in my hand. The checkering was a bit rough so I used a bicycle tube to make it more comfortable. I've cleaned it really well as Kahr must dunk their guns in 10W30 before shipping them. I was handling the gun a good bit last night and I noticed an issue. The 7 round mag (pictured, I know it's not locked in) works just fine. It locks in easily and drops out just as it should. The extra 8 round mag (not shown) that I bought doesn't seem to lock as easily. If the slide is closed I really have to slam it in to make it catch. If the slide is locked open, it clicks in just fine. Once in, it seems to drop correctly. I don't notice any stiff to the mag release as I would have expected. Can someone tell me if this is more likely a mag problem or a gun problem? The mag is a K920G if that matters.
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Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:38 am to SpeckledTiger
I haven't noticed this issue on my PM45, but I'm using the standard capacity mags, not the extended. It's not uncommon for full mags to be more difficult to insert though; there is no more room for the spring to compress so it's just pressing the round against the bottom of the chamber.
Congrats on the purchase. If it doesn't have a set of night sights, I would suggest some XS Big dots. I put some on mine and they're great.
Congrats on the purchase. If it doesn't have a set of night sights, I would suggest some XS Big dots. I put some on mine and they're great.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:41 am to CptRusty
Both mags were empty. Being the gun doesn't have any safeties, I didn't want to "play" with loaded mags in the living room with the wife sitting next to me. I'll try it with loaded mags tonight and see if I get the same result.
This post was edited on 8/20/13 at 8:44 am
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:43 am to SpeckledTiger
Oh. In that case i have no idea. 
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:43 am to SpeckledTiger
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The checkering was a bit rough so I used a bicycle tube to make it more comfortable.
Check out Talon Grips. I'm a huge fan of them. It made my Kahr CM9 much more shootable without tearing up my hands. The Talon Grips are also lower profile so they won't feel as bulky as the bike tube.
Talon Grips for Kahr
And as for the mag issue, like Rusty said, a full magazine may take some effort to lock in place. After you break in the mag spring a bit, it may not be an issue. But there's really no telling. Just shoot the hell out of it to break all the springs in.
And congrats on getting a great CC gun. I love my Kahr CM9 even after the 1000s of rounds I've sent down the tube.
EDIT: Noticed you said the mag was empty.
Shoot it at the range a bit with the new mag and load the mag fully every time. It should break in the spring a bit.
It also wouldn't hurt to leave it fully loaded when storing it.
This post was edited on 8/20/13 at 8:47 am
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:45 am to bapple
This is the second gun I've bought from your initial recommendation (which lead to further research). Feeling creeped out yet?
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:47 am to SpeckledTiger
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This is the second gun I've bought from your initial recommendation (which lead to further research).
Apparently some new posters here think I don't know dick about firearms...
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Feeling creeped out yet?
Maybe...
Happy to help, brother!
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:48 am to SpeckledTiger
Look up talon grips. I like the sandpaper type. When your hands are a little wet from sweat they still grip good. Although may not be as comfortable in a CC situation.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:49 am to SpeckledTiger
quote:I saw a YouTube review by some sexy-as-hell chick who is into guns. She described the exact same situation that you are. It's not just you.
Can someone tell me if this is more likely a mag problem or a gun problem? The mag is a K920G if that matters.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:50 am to CoastieGM
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I saw a YouTube review by some sexy-as-hell chick who is into guns
Erika? Destinee? Falia?
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:55 am to bapple
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Falia?
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:58 am to CptRusty
Shame she doesn't ever show her face...
Sweet bod though
Sweet bod though
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:06 am to CoastieGM
Kahr Mag
According to this guy, it has to do with the Kahr design of using the slide release to load the chamber. Being that Kahr tells you not to "sling shot" the first round, it seems logical that the mag would be harder to set with a closed slide that would require you to "sling shot" the first round. As we know, logical doesn't always equate correctness. Does this mean there is no problem, just a learning curve to operating this model gun?
According to this guy, it has to do with the Kahr design of using the slide release to load the chamber. Being that Kahr tells you not to "sling shot" the first round, it seems logical that the mag would be harder to set with a closed slide that would require you to "sling shot" the first round. As we know, logical doesn't always equate correctness. Does this mean there is no problem, just a learning curve to operating this model gun?
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:08 am to bapple
Falia.
Dang! You guys already have all the hot gun chicks scoped out?!
Bunch of gun pervs.
Dang! You guys already have all the hot gun chicks scoped out?!
Bunch of gun pervs.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:09 am to CoastieGM
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Bunch of gun pervs
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:12 am to SpeckledTiger
From my own experience, it doesn't hurt to "sling-shot" load it as long as you use the proper technique. The gun is pretty stiff before being broken in though.
I think they are also trying to cover their asses so people don't think their new guns aren't functioning properly. Someone who doesn't use the proper racking technique would have a much greater chance of short-stroking () a Kahr pistol.
Kahr pistols also have a somewhat steep feed ramp. If you have hollow point ammo or flat-point ammo, it runs the risk of pushing into the feed ramp and preventing it from going into battery. This really only happens if someone tries to sling shot it with improper technique.
When you sling shot a slide, grab the rear of the slide with the bottom of your palm and the tips of your fingers, with your thumb pointing towards you. Then forcefully push the gun with your dominant hand away from your body until it comes out of your grip. This is the proper way to rack a pistol.
But while breaking in everything, it's probably in your best interest to use the slide release for now. The extended mags can also be finicky at times. Just keep on shooting her and see if the smooths everything out.
I think they are also trying to cover their asses so people don't think their new guns aren't functioning properly. Someone who doesn't use the proper racking technique would have a much greater chance of short-stroking (
) a Kahr pistol. Kahr pistols also have a somewhat steep feed ramp. If you have hollow point ammo or flat-point ammo, it runs the risk of pushing into the feed ramp and preventing it from going into battery. This really only happens if someone tries to sling shot it with improper technique.
When you sling shot a slide, grab the rear of the slide with the bottom of your palm and the tips of your fingers, with your thumb pointing towards you. Then forcefully push the gun with your dominant hand away from your body until it comes out of your grip. This is the proper way to rack a pistol.
But while breaking in everything, it's probably in your best interest to use the slide release for now. The extended mags can also be finicky at times. Just keep on shooting her and see if the smooths everything out.
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:17 am to CptRusty
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CptRusty
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:41 am to bapple
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it doesn't hurt to "sling-shot" load
what are y'all referring to here?
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:48 am to SpeckledTiger
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:48 am to mikeytig
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it doesn't hurt to "sling-shot" load
Loading the first round in the magazine without using the slide release, aka retracting the slide and letting it go. "Sling shot" loading refers to using your fingertips, generally speaking. This prevents you from getting as much strength into the racking of the gun.
So, it doesn't hurt to sling-shot, but in some of the tighter guns it can cause it to short stroke.
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