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Let's discuss concrete countertops

Posted on 7/17/16 at 10:04 am
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 10:04 am
We'd like to install new countertops in our kitchen. It's an old farmhouse style house and we'd like to find something to fit that style. Something simple. I'm very diy handy and know I could handle concrete countertops. There's a company from PA that sells cast in place forms and other accessories. Looks like it would run about $1,000 for our countertops (about 30sf) in white concrete. My concern is the durability and long term look. I can't find much real world info on concret countertops other than manufacturer info and people that just installed them. I don't see any multiple years later reviews. I guess this is both good and bad because if there are problems, people usually bitch on the Internet.

So, a few questions:

Y'all thoughts in general on concrete countertops.

Anyone have concrete countertops for a while? If so, thoughts, pros, cons? Are they a pain in the arse to keep clean? Do they stain easily? Do they hold up over the years?

Is there another alternative that could give us natural countertops in solid white? If so, typical cost/sf?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 10:38 am to
Concrete has fly ash, gypsum, and a host of other goodness. If you want your food coming into contact with it, go ahead.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18913 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Concrete has fly ash, gypsum, and a host of other goodness. If you want your food coming into contact with it, go ahead.


If you are concerned with what is in concrete, do yourself a favor and don't ever read up on the host of bacteria hanging out in a kitchen. Stuff in your concrete is the last thing to worry about.

As far as concrete countertops, you have to seal them and reseal them on a regular basis. So take the maintenance into account.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 3:22 pm to
If they are sealed correctly, regardless of frequency required, does that seal out stains? What I don't want is them to get stained and I'm stuck with these big slabs forever.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7878 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 4:37 pm to
Soapstone looks great in farmhouse kitchens as another option.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7377 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 4:56 pm to
Seems like you're going to have to keep it up much more than traditional options.

I would go with a butcherblock or wood slab if I wanted something to go in a farmhouse type kitchen.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 6:10 pm to
My island is already butcher block. We'd like something solid surface (concrete, stone, etc) for the counters.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
2916 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 6:39 pm to
I built my own. Look up Cheng Designs and follow youtube. It is like pouring a slab, but upside down. When I built mine 11 years ago, I bought his DVD. You can get everything you need at Home Depot, glass at a hobby place and anything else you want to put in it. The Concrete supply has the grinding pads, etc. The cheng DVD gave me all the steps to follow to ensure no errors.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 7:25 pm to
How have yours held up? What sealer did/do you use. Pics? Thanks for the info either way.

I'd like to pour them in place if possible but have watched a bunch of YouTube about precast and flip. The stuff in looking at is z-form by concrete countertops products.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25008 posts
Posted on 7/17/16 at 8:12 pm to
I made mine when I built my grill stand. It's of course outside. It's been there for almost 7years now. I put several coats of polyurethane in it and it still looks great.

To make them I used high strength quikrete (2000 I think). Built my forms out of melamine. Ran wire and rebar and then vibrated it really good to get bubbles out.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 3:47 pm to
Tiger94gop, Any info on those questions?
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 6:50 pm to
I know they are rather costly to have installed by professionals. Almost the same as getting actual stone, if not more. At least when I looked ~4 years ago. I thought it'd be a cheaper alternative. So I would think it takes some expertise. Seems like it would be very easy to get hairline cracks, etc.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29394 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 7:14 pm to
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Seems like you're going to have to keep it up much more than traditional options.

If you stain, seal, and burnish properly, it's pretty much maintenance free. You'll have to maintain it periodically and re-stain/seal.

Just a word of advice, unless you know what you are doing, it's best to let professionals handle this. It's not that hard to arse up concrete, and in the middle of your kitchen leaves all kinds of potential hazards.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
2916 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 7:18 pm to
Mine still look good. I put his sealer on. I had a lot of counters, that is why I did them outside. I didn't want to pour in place too much mess. I built tables first, then poured on the tables. Used the tables as shelves in my shed when done. What Cheng does is give you the nuances and little details he is very meticulous. Like using black caulk in the seams, and how deep you can go with your forms before ghosting, etc. You can do anything with concrete. I used quick Crete high strength. I rented a mixer, but you could buy one at HF for what I paid in rental. I used foam and packing tape for my cutouts, it helps for smoothness. The hardest part was the finish. I over ground some, but overall, they have done well. I did blue, brown and black. HD has the black and you can make it look good. In the house I would definitely color it. Look at Chengs stuff online and it will give you crazy ideas. One thing to remember is you can't vibrate them enough. I used a sander against the form, but wished I had one to put into the form. Had to use a slurry to fill gaps on two and the color didn't match.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
2916 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 7:25 pm to
I had pics, but my comp crashed and I can't find them.

LINK

I used the dvds, I set up a tv watched a video, then did it. It isn't hard, but I wouldn't do them inside if you have the room. Mine was new construction, I have a huge Island and put it in wood because it would have to be poured in place.

There are also easy ways to make bull noses, etc. That I didn't do. I would look at his videos.

LINK


send me an email and I can send you the pics once I find them.

tiger94gop2016@gmail.com
This post was edited on 7/18/16 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39025 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 7:35 pm to
I made some Cheng counters about a dozen years ago, but I left the cream layer on mine since I was doing black.

They etch with lemon juice and worm holes open up over time, but depending on your style they can be very personal and rich.

Here's a photo of one of my slabs and the concrete backsplash base I made under a bookshelf in our kitchen. This one is in better shape than the two by the stove.



Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23735 posts
Posted on 7/18/16 at 9:30 pm to
Coincidentally I watched this short video the other day on this very thing and was thinking about doing it myself. Concrete countertops
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