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Home safe must haves

Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:56 pm
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
18733 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:56 pm
Ok home safe owners... what are some of the "must haves" for the interior? LED lighting, dehumidifier, etc.

Also, do all or most safes come with a power cord access hole?

Thanks.... and no, i don't want anyone's Liberty Safe combinations.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
2932 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

must haves"

Must have the “stated” ability to hold 25 more guns than you currently have
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29307 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

Ok home safe owners... what are some of the "must haves" for the interior?


Safe must have 2x capacity of whatever firearms you plan on storing in them.
Posted by HighlyFavoredTiger
TexLaArk
Member since Jun 2018
879 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 4:22 pm to
My main recommendation would be to get the biggest one you can afford and move, the bigger ones are extremely heavy.
I got one last year that is advertised as a 30 gun, but unless I remove all the shelves it will only hold 9 long guns and that took some creative placement because of the scopes on 6 rifles. It has LED lights battery powered and dehumidifier but nothing else extra. I will probably eventually get a bigger one or a separate one for long guns and use this one for pistols and some other valuables.
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
631 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 5:15 pm to
I should've gotten a bigger one too. I live on a side of a hill and part of my foundation is partly raised so I bolted mine through the floor. Just a thought.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31054 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 6:10 pm to
Whatever size you think you need, you need bigger.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9344 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:05 pm to
Don't need lights, I use the dehumidifier cans that can be regenerated. I think all safes come with a knock out hole.
Posted by Norla
Member since Aug 2016
369 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:10 pm to
You need to do some homework to determine how big of a safe you need/want, and what fire/heat rating you want it to be. Obviously the higher the fire/heat rating the more expensive it will be.

I bought one last year, and the salesman explained it to me like this:
-AR style rifles are considered 2.5 guns in a safe
-Pump and automatic shotguns are considered 1 gun
-Rifle with a scope is 1.5 guns
-O/U shotguns are considered 1.5 or 2 guns

Meaning it will hold 36 pump or automatic shotguns, or rifles with no scopes, but pretty much any other style gun will cost you the space of an additional gun or two for each one.

Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5176 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:09 pm to
If you dont have a bulkhead/hole like mine, you can use rechargable, motion detected, magnetic LED puck lights. Ive had them for 4 months on the same charge.



Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8608 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:30 am to
Just got a 36 gun safe thinking it would be big enough. It isn’t
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18271 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:38 am to
Get some gunsafe Rifle rods. You can buy on Amazon. They make storing long guns much easier. You can store more long guns with them.

Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90528 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:07 am to
I don't think you need lights. Not a part of the safe but get some strong fireproof document holders

Like others said, go bigger than you think
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
1604 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:39 pm to
While the quick access of an electronic lock is appealing I prefer a good S&G dial lock as it has no electronics to fail. In a perfect world, I'd like to have both but those are uncommon.

When looking at fire ratings remember that those are for a certain temperature limit and duration, it's not absolute. Consider where you plan to put your safe from a fire point of view. For example if it's going to be in the basement and your home is fully engulfed in a fire, the contents of the safe probably won't survive. Consider putting it next to an outside wall which, in a fire, would collapse and expose the safe to outside relatively lower temps. Finally on fire rating, consider how close you are to the nearest fire station.

Make sure you use some good lag bolts to secure the safe to the floor, otherwise it's easy for a thief to tip it over and take a grinder to the thinner back/side panels or just cart if off completely for those I've seen put their safe in the garage. If you have the space, and you're putting it next to an outside wall, put another partial wall on the other side of the safe so it's only exposed on the front and maybe top. Making a little cubby area for the safe.

Lastly, the line about "buying bigger than you need" gets a lot of play but I'm much more of an advocate for instead of getting one really big safe, get 2 or 3 (or more) mid-sized safes and put them in different locations to distribute your risk. Because if someone DID get into your one big safe they've got everything.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 12:51 pm
Posted by LSUTVern
Lacombe, LA
Member since Oct 2007
16 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 2:11 pm to
First off earlier posters are right. Buy the largest you can afford and move. Buy rifle rods these greatly increase the number of guns that can be stored. I have two safes because I bought too small the first time. On fire ratings I wouldn't worry too much. Be sure to bolt it down. Try to put it where the side of the door that opens is against a wall (inhibits them using a pry bar to open. Consider getting it in a closet or enclosed space to hinder attacks. If you can't, consider building an enclosure around it and use cement board and drywall to increase fire resistance. If you can get it in a closet you can increase fire resistance with a layer of cement board and additional layers of type x dry wall. Each layer gives a 1 hour fire resistance. Don't put it on the 2nd story unless you absolutely have to. It will fall through as the structure burns down and will break open. Add a normal weatherstrip gasket outside the intumescent fire gasket to resist hot gases entering (the intumescent gasket won't seal until it reaches about 300 degrees F). Don't store any ammo in the safe. It will cook off in the safe and damage the firearms.

Addition - If you do build an enclosure around it you can fire proof stud wall with intumescent paint and use rockwool insulation for even higher protection.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Success
Member since Sep 2015
1727 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 2:28 pm to
I bought big. 64 gun. Added leds, generic golden rod, bought shelves and brackets from Home Depot, wall dogs to screw in to drywall inside the safe, magnet strips for mags from harbor freight, rifle rods, and over and under shelf hand gun holders.
Posted by CEB
Member since May 2023
36 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:24 pm to
LA now offers a State income tax credit up to $500 for purchase of gun safe.

LINK
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10111 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:37 pm to
Not what you asked for, but my biggest lesson.

Safes are not waterproof. Duh. They would become a huge bomb in the event of a fire.

However, after 2016, what I learned was this.

That fire pocket for documents is indeed waterproof, until the top flap goes under. When your safe floods, it fills with water then holds the water until you come back and empty it.

Huge difference between documents getting wet and documents under water for 3 days.
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