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Herding Dogs and Labs - Exercise Induced Collapse
Posted on 6/14/14 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 6/14/14 at 10:49 pm
Anyone have experience with this?
With labs and a few breeds they have found a genetic link. But with herding dogs they don't know the link, they just know it seems connected to outside temp and the level of excitement of the activity.
Scary as frick. My heeler can run flat out behind a four wheeler for miles with no problem almost no matter the temp and humidity. But, play fetch with the tennis ball, which she loves, and sometimes five minutes after we're done she suddenly acts like she's drunk and can't walk.
The colleges doing studies on this still can't explain it, they just call it border collie collapse: LINK
Damn near had a panic attack today thinking the dog had a heat stroke, then 10 minutes later she was fine. Made for some interesting reading playing google vet.
With labs and a few breeds they have found a genetic link. But with herding dogs they don't know the link, they just know it seems connected to outside temp and the level of excitement of the activity.
Scary as frick. My heeler can run flat out behind a four wheeler for miles with no problem almost no matter the temp and humidity. But, play fetch with the tennis ball, which she loves, and sometimes five minutes after we're done she suddenly acts like she's drunk and can't walk.
The colleges doing studies on this still can't explain it, they just call it border collie collapse: LINK
Damn near had a panic attack today thinking the dog had a heat stroke, then 10 minutes later she was fine. Made for some interesting reading playing google vet.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 10:50 pm
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 11:08 pm to Sus-Scrofa
My lab did it a couple of times after intense playing in the summer. He'd come in and act drunk for a couple of minutes. Would run into shite. Fell down once. Brought him to the vet and she said he was good. Hasn't done it in 5 years
Posted on 6/15/14 at 12:26 am to Sus-Scrofa
Could be the type of activity; endurance (running for miles) or high intensity (fetch).
Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:28 am to ZacAttack
Most breeders are trying to breed out affected dogs by only breeding clear/clear or clear/carrier. I've had a couple former client dogs that were EIC affected (labs). One I was able to train and one was so bad I had to send her home. As soon as her heart rate became elevated she would keel over like a fainting goat; which makes learning by repetition impossible.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:29 am to Sus-Scrofa
My lab has done it a couple times. We limit her activity, especially in the summer. I think she would fetch until it kills her.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 7:30 am
Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:53 am to Sus-Scrofa
Keep any dog on limited exercise if the temp & humidity combined are over 103 got it wrong here is a chart LINK
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 7:58 am
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:33 am to Cracker
Had a lab that did this. And he wasn't even exercising. He would walk around like he was drunk, pass out, wake up, and presto, good to go. First time I saw this I thought he was poisoned, scared the shite out of me.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:15 pm to VernonPLSUfan
Crazy knowing that three big time colleges have been looking at this for three years and can't figure it out. Guess it's a testament to the breed that the want to can outrun the body's ability to do it.
Still funny how the dog's body will literally shut down for a 10 to 30 minute breather without much warning. If you read the article it explains how the dog can go and go, and this only happens a few minutes after he stops.
Still funny how the dog's body will literally shut down for a 10 to 30 minute breather without much warning. If you read the article it explains how the dog can go and go, and this only happens a few minutes after he stops.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:22 pm to Sus-Scrofa
It would happen to my dog after 30-45 minutes of intense exercise, but would only last a couple of minutes. Like I said though, he only did it for a couple of months and it stopped completely after that. Hasn't done it since
It was like he hyperventilated himself
It was like he hyperventilated himself
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