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Help me with a new handgun purchase? (added info)

Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:05 am
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:05 am
Derp

I need a new gun. I think I want an all steel either 9mm or .45. If I go .45 I want a 1911 I think, but don't have big $$. Budget is $400-600.

I'm leaning towards cz75 and the knockoffs (baby eagle, eaa witness), Baretta 92, maybe a PX4, Remington 1911, or maybe a Sig P220.

What do y'all got? This will be for home defense, occasional carry/car and shooting.
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 9:08 am
Posted by Judge Smails
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:05 am to
Got to give us a little more to go on BRAH.....
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:06 am to
Gonna need some more info there buddy. Caliber? SA? DA? SA-DA? polymer frame? Steel Frame? Revolver? What is it going to be used for etc. etc. etc.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:06 am to



Small but packs a punch.
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Small but packs a punch.


I always liked this one from Fallout 3:



Alien Blaster
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3504 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:09 am to
And, I'd prefer something with a hammer, with either a de-cocker or safety.
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3504 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Small but packs a punch.


Needle gun from Halo? Those are badass.
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5518 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:12 am to
Based on your budget you're at the extreme low end of the 1911 world. The cz's are fine pistols but not my personal taste.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:13 am to
Look up my Youtube channel, BigApple0828. I can't link it right now because I'm on my phone.

But there's a wealth of videos 70+ and I have one called "First Time Firearm Buyers." Even if you're not a first time buyer, it should be right up your alley.

Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:15 am to
quote:

I'd prefer something with a hammer, with either a de-cocker or safety


Sounds like CZ 75 or a variant is going to be your best bet then

ETA: I ordered one that should be en route early next week. I'll let you know how she shoots
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 9:16 am
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3504 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:17 am to
Thanks. Been there and watched a bunch of them. Good videos - informative and helpful.

Not a first time buyer (third time actually), I just cannot decide what I want. Part of my problem is i have multiple needs. So, I think I'll just have to make multiple purchases until all needs are met.
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:19 am to
quote:

So, I think I'll just have to make multiple purchases until all needs are met.



When in doubt, buy them all! I like the way this guy thinks. Everyone on the outdoor board can now breathe a sigh of relief. I think BrotherEsau is going to be just fine.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11895 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Part of my problem is i have multiple needs. So, I think I'll just have to make multiple purchases until all needs are met.






Sounds like it because...

quote:

What do y'all got? This will be for home defense, occasional carry/car and shooting.


When you say this, you really start to think about size constraints. For a home defense pistol, something full sized is your best fit. But if you plan on carrying it, lugging around a 5" Remington 1911 may not be ideal (although some people do it daily).

I prefer to carry something that I KNOW I will have with me. If that means I have to sacrifice on size (and possibly a couple rounds), it's worth the tradeoff. The other option is not being armed at all, which is never good.

But I think for your situation, you would be best suited with a compact. I love my Ruger SR9c since it is capable of accepting a full size SR9 magazine, but I can also use the flush 10 round magazine if I want to comfortably carry it. I have also carried it with the 17 rounder before, but I find it prints more when I do that (with my carry method at least).

quote:

I need a new gun. I think I want an all steel either 9mm or .45. If I go .45 I want a 1911 I think, but don't have big $$. Budget is $400-600.

I'm leaning towards cz75 and the knockoffs (baby eagle, eaa witness), Baretta 92, maybe a PX4, Remington 1911, or maybe a Sig P220.


Most of these are metal-framed pistols, so I think it would be a good decision for this to be a home defense pistol and recreational pistol exclusively.

If you haven't already decided on a dedicated carry pistol, that is something else you can figure out as well. But I think you will become tired of carrying a full metal handgun. I could be wrong though; stranger things have happened.

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22171 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:24 am to
- Metro Arms 1911's (American Classic)
- Rock Island Armory 1911's
- CZ75 variants
- Beretta 92
- Taurus PT92 (Probably their best pistol besides Judge)


Most metal Sigs are 800+ I believe the Remington 1911 is higher as well.

The PX4 is a polymer gun.

Your suggestions point towards a DA/SA. Is this correct?
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 9:31 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22171 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:29 am to
quote:

What do y'all got? This will be for home defense, occasional carry/car and shooting.


I would get a railed gun for home defense and a sub 5" for carry.

Baby eagle 2 compact.

LINK

I hope this is it. My computer at work won't let me go there.
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3504 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:34 am to
Yes on the DA/SA.

As for polymer/steel, I sort of prefer steel, but won't rule out a polymer. I have no explanation of why I prefer the steel.

By way of further background - My two prior were a .40 S&W Sigma (original series, circa 1998, oh the horror) and a .357 S&W J-frame. I carried the Sigma for a few years, then it eventually got put away and I sort of lost interest/time for shooting. And I didn't feel the need to carry regularly. I think the SIgma is why I want a steel gun. (But there was nothing wrong with that Sigma. I know it gets a shitty rap, but I always found it to be accurate and easy to shoot. Pulled it out the drawer after 10+ years and put 75 rounds through it without cleaning, with not a single issue.)

I may go get my CCW, so that's why I through in the occasional carry, but I may never end up doing it. SO I see this as more of a home/car/fun shooting gun.

I am also not opposed to .40, but am trying to get my wife involved, and find 9mm (9mm experience limited to Glock and Baretta) and 1911s (experience limited to a Sig and COlt COmbat Commander, a really sweet gun) to be a little less snappy.

Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3504 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Baby eagle 2 compact.

LINK

I hope this is it. My computer at work won't let me go there.


That's it. I like that one and the full size.
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:37 am to
quote:

(But there was nothing wrong with that Sigma. I know it gets a shitty rap, but I always found it to be accurate and easy to shoot. Pulled it out the drawer after 10+ years and put 75 rounds through it without cleaning, with not a single issue.)


The triggers on the Sigmas is what I hated about them. If you liked the Sigma than you would do great with any new polymer framed pistol. Bapple loves his M&P CORE if you wanted to go with another S&W.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22171 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:41 am to
I prefer 9mm because it isn't snappy and +P ammo is almost the same ballistics as a 40.

Polymers I would go in order
- Sig SP2022 (very nice feeling gun with a great trigger)
- Beretta PX4 Storm (Good but the trigger is only decent to me)

Steel in 9mm I would go in order
- CZ75 variants
- Beretta 92
- RIA 1911

outlier: used p226 or p229 (I wanted new so that's why I didn't choose these)

I don't have any suggestions on 45's other than 1911's.
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22390 posts
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:42 am to
You can probably find a nice used Sig P226 in that price range, and they're great guns.
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