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re: Gun ownership,ethics,conceal carry,vehicle storage

Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:40 am to
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:40 am to
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Murica right? Jeezee you sound paranoid.



Why belittle someone who came to your thread voluntarily to offer a different point of view?

Do whatever the hell you want. You are on the right track asking for legal advice on the TigerDroppings Outdoor Board, particularly given your indicated history.
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 10:42 am
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Not letting an officer know you have a loaded gun is a bad idea all the time.



quote:

You should just let him search your vehicle while you are at it. Would probably make him more comfortable.



Is this offering a "different point of view"?
Posted by Aubie83
Member since Jan 2008
5012 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:44 am to
I typically hand the officer my permit along with my license and registration.
Posted by chickman1313
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
4922 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:44 am to
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BTW, how many of you answer the question: 'Do you know why I pulled you over?


when I got pulled over last week, I said, because I was flyin

he let me go with a warning, 45 in a 30

oh and I got out of the car immediately after being pulled over and was kinda laughing, I knew he got me, wasn't going to debate it, nice guy
This post was edited on 8/4/15 at 10:46 am
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166497 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:44 am to
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I have always, and will always, step out of the vehicle when pulled over. I have heard different stances from different buddies in different branches of law enforcement on that subject, but me - i step out of the truck w liscense, registration & proof of insurance. It is close by and i can reach them very quickly.


You don't do ANYTHING unless told. You don't step out, you don't go grabbing for papers, you sit still hands on the wheel and wait for instructions.

i've been let go after getting pulled over for speeding when i notified cop i had a gun in my car, i guess he thought i was a responsible white boy
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:47 am to
Nah. I'll just let him grab my paperwork from under my gun if he wants. Last time the guy took the gun out, unloaded it, put it in my back seat, asked me how I liked it and if I shot it often, if I could hit anything with it, said he was going to buy one for his wife but never had the chance to shoot one yet, and told me to slow down. I was pulled over for going 15 over in a school zone and got a warning from NOPD. How many here can say that? Probably not anybody who is taping traffic stops and not letting an officer grab paperwork out of the glove box.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28311 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:53 am to
I wouldn't tell NOPD. Good chance they will steal the gun.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 10:58 am to
Meh

They might blast you if they catch a glimpse of it without knowing about it first.

Worst case is you loose a gun if you tell them. Worst case is you get shot if you don't.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:04 am to
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Nah. I'll just let him grab my paperwork from under my gun if he wants. Last time the guy took the gun out, unloaded it, put it in my back seat, asked me how I liked it and if I shot it often, if I could hit anything with it, said he was going to buy one for his wife but never had the chance to shoot one yet, and told me to slow down. I was pulled over for going 15 over in a school zone and got a warning from NOPD. How many here can say that? Probably not anybody who is taping traffic stops and not letting an officer grab paperwork out of the glove box.


Such voluntary acquiescence is alien to me, perhaps as my view is to you.

I will leave the Constitutional angle alone and just say that at a minimum there are things I own that are nice enough that I don't want some clueless public servant fumbling around with them beside a road.

And with that, good afternoon.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43661 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:19 am to
never offer up more info to the cop than you should legally. unless you are carrying on your person no reason to tell him.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25070 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:39 am to
Not sure if it still is but it use to be the law that you have to tell the officer if you have a gun concealed and you have a permit. This is in TN.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28311 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:54 am to
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Last time the guy took the gun out, unloaded it, put it in my back seat,


Unimpressed. Why does he have the right to do that?

I'm glad it went well for you, but NOPD is pretty well-known for theft and making up their own rules.

Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 11:57 am to
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asked me how I liked it and if I shot it often, if I could hit anything with it, said he was going to buy one for his wife



Sounds like his cocked n locked self was trolling your wheelgun tooting arse...
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:07 pm to
He probably doesn't legally have the right to do that. I can't remember if he asked me if he could or told me he was going to but I remember him saying he was gonna do it.
Posted by Who Me
Ascension
Member since Aug 2011
7090 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:10 pm to
This topic has been discussed at length on this board before. With no one really coming into any agreement on anything.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28311 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:22 pm to
Agreed.

There really is no standard, and honestly, LEO's can do what they want.
That said, if I'm cop dealing with the GP that could have a weapon, I would do the same.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:33 pm to
People are generally easy to read and you can make a quick judgement call on how you need to handle a given LEO. In my case, the gun is on top of my paperwork if I'm in my car so I don't have a choice. I'm not grabbing a gun if the cop doesn't explicitly state he's ok with it.
Posted by Who Me
Ascension
Member since Aug 2011
7090 posts
Posted on 8/4/15 at 12:35 pm to
Professionalism and courtesy go a long way for both the officer and general public. I use common sense but err on the side of caution if I have any doubt when weapons are involved.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4542 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 11:42 am to
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You are allowed to have a loaded pistol in your car within reach without a CCW permit? Alabama gun laws are pretty favorable to gun owners for the most part but that is illegal as shite around here.


I believe a gun in your vehicle is considered an extension of your home in Louisiana.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30699 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 2:30 pm to
For awhile nopd was seizing guns found in traffic stops - you had to go back and prove you really owned said gun

This was rampant before Katrina not sure if still in practice
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