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re: Getting kinda snakey early this year

Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:08 pm to
Posted by Sixafan
Member since Aug 2023
586 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:08 pm to
My 40 acres with a 2acre pond had many snakes. Racers, Rat snakes, king snakes, mud snakes, copperheads, cotton mouths, garter, ribbon, worn snakes and a lot of water snakes.

Since hogs moved in 5 yrs ago we see only racers, ratsnakes, king snakes, garter and ribbon.

I know hogs snakes but do they eat poisonous snakes and can they catch water snakes? Or is it something else?
Posted by meltingman
Member since Jun 2017
73 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:56 pm to
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Yep .... vets around here vaccinate for snake bite. We've got too many canebrakes especially - because of the chicken houses, or so we're told.


Listen to the Snake Talk podcast episodes 37 and 83.
Specialist doctors claim the vaccines do not work, and most vets and medical doctors do not know how to properly treat venomous snake bites.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7121 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:18 pm to
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Actually love observing snakes/gators in the wild, but from a distance. You mentioned no CMs yet, so do snakes hibernate during the winter months?


Reptiles actually do brumation, which is kind of a lighter version of hibernation. They might come out and eat on a warmer day during winter, then return to brumation when temperatures drop again.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7121 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:22 pm to
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I know hogs snakes but do they eat poisonous snakes and can they catch water snakes? Or is it something else?


They can eat all types of snakes and adult hogs have a resistance to snake venom. Water snakes might just have the advantage of an easy escape route.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2536 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:40 pm to
I remember hearing about an island in the Mississippi River that was once known as “Snake Island” and they let hogs go on the island years ago. The name changed from “Snake Island” to “Hog island”, but that was told to me by my Grandfather 20ish years ago. He was towboat captain and I assume he knew what he was talking about.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37655 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 11:36 pm to
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Listen to the Snake Talk podcast episodes 37 and 83.
Specialist doctors claim the vaccines do not work, and most vets and medical doctors do not know how to properly treat venomous snake bites.

Okay, I will but ....

Google Laura Brodie. I knew her for years. She actually sold me the property I'm sitting on now about 45 years ago.

She was a local woman, friend of my aunt's .... two strong headed old ladies. Laura was a herpetologist. The first female of her field in SC. Very famous lady.

She milked venomous snakes in her basement to make vaccines and antivenom for the better part of 70 years before she died.

She swore by vaccines. She was a little ole thing, barely 100 pds, feisty. She told me she had been bitten over twenty times and that she was immune to them.

I dunno. People get their dogs vaccinated around here but I'll listen to that podcast.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5773 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:38 am to
No “off time” for snakes in these areas. Rattlers in Feb is my rule after having dispatched a beast a few days after single digit temps. Always be aware.
Posted by meltingman
Member since Jun 2017
73 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 11:12 am to
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People get their dogs vaccinated around here but I'll listen to that podcast.


I will check out Ms. Brodie. Curious to what other people think too. I am not a snake guy but concerned about my dogs roaming my property in Tennessee. We have timbers and copper heads all over.
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
1969 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 6:11 pm to
Not positive, but I think the rattlesnake vaccine is derived from the venom of the western diamondback. From what I've heard it is still supposed to be helpful against the venom of timber rattlesnakes.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7121 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 11:20 pm to
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. We have timbers and copper heads all over


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