- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Freshwater and Sediment Diversions - Do you agree with these guys?
Posted on 3/20/13 at 11:33 pm to tenfoe
Posted on 3/20/13 at 11:33 pm to tenfoe
quote:this....one fresh water diversion is not going to make up for the river being leveed off for the past 100 years and the hundreds of storms that has come up the coast....to me the only choice now to save the the coast is to spend billions of dollars and build a huge cement wall along the whole coastline.oh and after the wall is built make more freshwater diversions....the salt water and the fish will come in once the river drops in the summer time.
How many big m-frickin' hurricanes have hit there in that time period dude?
Posted on 3/21/13 at 12:14 am to tigerswin03
Natural Processes in Delta Restoration is a good read. Talks about the Mississippi delta primarily
Long read though
Long read though
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 12:18 am
Posted on 3/21/13 at 6:56 am to lsufishnhunt
so when the river was naturally flowing through there.. it wasn't a problem?
gimme a break..
gimme a break..
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:42 am to choupiquesushi
Some good posts on here... Glad to see that the yahoos on the "other" site won't be convincing you all of their no diversion plan.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:42 am to Imnotagoogan41
quote:
Biggest impact for a fact has been Katrina and Rita if you look at the gulf coast in aerial photos between 2003 and 2005 it's enough to make you want to throw up. Go to this site and it will let you cycle through the aerial shots from 1998 to 2011.
Issac did some very serious damage to lower Lafourche. It's like Barataria Bay is about to hit Leeville.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:44 am to lsufishnhunt
quote:
Glad to see that the yahoos on the "other" site won't be convincing you all of their no diversion plan.
I haven't been to that site in years. If that's the mood over there, I'm glad.
eta - I had to see for myself. I may use them for a rig location or tide chart from time to time, but that'll be it. Ignorant.
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 7:48 am
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:51 am to Jester
Send the clowns to Bayou Corne with buckets and snorkels if they want salt water.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:55 am to Jester
I have heard a lot of negative feedback from people in the area of the Caernarvon diversion. The fact that it doesn't bring any sediment and the freshwater has changed the habitat in the area and not for the good. I used to live across the river from it and had friends that hunt that area. About everyone I have heard comment on it has been negative.
I really don't know the area so I can't comment on it. Just sharing what I heard on it.
As for the Mississippi, it might not carry the sediment it used to but it can still most definitely create some land. I have seen it done south of Venice over the years. Something still has to be done to try to create land faster than it disappears. By the way, the land that is disappearing is on the outside or closer to the gulf. The land closer to the river is not disappering. Land closer to the river has actually increased since my time alive. A lot of this new land was created from building trenasses and letting the sediment get to the marsh.
From what I've seen, new land will is built by sediment until it fills up and stops receiving sediment. Example- land is too high to receive the sediment or is blocked from receiving sediment due to grass/canes. Once that land stops receiving the sediment it will eventually decay. I'm assuming this is just the natural progression of the delta.
I really don't know the area so I can't comment on it. Just sharing what I heard on it.
As for the Mississippi, it might not carry the sediment it used to but it can still most definitely create some land. I have seen it done south of Venice over the years. Something still has to be done to try to create land faster than it disappears. By the way, the land that is disappearing is on the outside or closer to the gulf. The land closer to the river is not disappering. Land closer to the river has actually increased since my time alive. A lot of this new land was created from building trenasses and letting the sediment get to the marsh.
From what I've seen, new land will is built by sediment until it fills up and stops receiving sediment. Example- land is too high to receive the sediment or is blocked from receiving sediment due to grass/canes. Once that land stops receiving the sediment it will eventually decay. I'm assuming this is just the natural progression of the delta.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:32 am to JasonL79
You are correct. The issue people don't understand is that as every finger of the river fluctuates, there are always areas of decay and new areas of building. This cycle cannot be overcome with current funding and dredge only programs because we would be back dredging and filling the same areas every 15 years. We also don't have that much material to dig unless we cut Barataria, Breton, and Terrebone to 20 feet deep, which in turn increases wave energy and speeds erosion.
Dredging by itself will never be the answer. I think there is something to be learned from West bay in that once the receiving berms were built a few years ago, they did a lot to knock down velocities and cause sediment to fall out of suspension once we got a good flood year. Future sediment diversions should include some dredged "capture" berms to kick start sub delta formation.
Dredging by itself will never be the answer. I think there is something to be learned from West bay in that once the receiving berms were built a few years ago, they did a lot to knock down velocities and cause sediment to fall out of suspension once we got a good flood year. Future sediment diversions should include some dredged "capture" berms to kick start sub delta formation.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:54 am to man in the stadium
quote:
Future sediment diversions should include some dredged "capture" berms to kick start sub delta formation.
Exactly.
The other thing in the states favor right now is the oyster guys on that side have been paid off from the spill. Which opens the door for sediment diversions. I just hope they take advantage of it, which appears they are by leaving lock open and allowing the Mardi Gras cut continue to develop. Which will be an interesting one to watch.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:57 am to lsufishnhunt
Screw those guys and especially the oyster fisherman. Had it not been for the corps damming off the MS river those areas would never have had enough salt water to support oysters. I would much rather have my fishing grounds turn fresh than deal with all the coastal erosion we have now.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 11:00 am to bayoudude
quote:
Screw those guys and especially the oyster fisherman
I like oysters, we just happened to be unfortunate enough for big oil to pay the lease holders off for us when we opened up all the locks to hold the oil back. They'll have to move further out into the sound.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 11:06 am to Capt ST
Hey i like em too but the erosion is out of control. I have family property in Chauvin that my great grand parents raised cattle on and now you can ride through it in a bay boat. Out of 120 acres that were hard land now there is maybe 10 acres of salt marsh
Posted on 3/21/13 at 11:14 am to bayoudude
quote:
I have family property in Chauvin
Grew up fishing Montegut. I remember catching goggle eye in Wonder Lake. I kills me to look at all those old decaying tree trunks. I would have loved to have seen those big oak groves in person.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 11:33 am to Capt ST
No doubt. And across the bayou on the other side of Crochetville road that marsh used to be cypress swamp judging by all the old logs and stumps. I bet it was something to see.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 2:01 pm to man in the stadium
quote:
Dredging by itself will never be the answer. I think there is something to be learned from West bay in that once the receiving berms were built a few years ago, they did a lot to knock down velocities and cause sediment to fall out of suspension once we got a good flood year. Future sediment diversions should include some dredged "capture" berms to kick start sub delta formation.
Yes, that capture berm did help from what I've seen also. Hopefully we see more projects like west bay. Maybe a combination of diversions and dredging.
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:09 pm to JasonL79
I'm so glad to see that none of you are buying that guy's bullshite.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News