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Do you carry with a round in the chamber or no?
Posted on 8/1/16 at 12:08 am
Posted on 8/1/16 at 12:08 am
I've recently started carrying, and I'm not quite comfortable keeping it on my person too much. I feel like it's obvious when I do.
When I do carry, I never have a round in the chamber due to the fear of a miss fire while reaching for it. I never think of being ambushed so it's not a good idea for me to keep doing it. I usually think about being in a well populated areas like a mall or something and how I would handle those types of situations.
This video was kind kind of and eye opener for me. I guess I'll be kitting up the range practicing my reach.
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When I do carry, I never have a round in the chamber due to the fear of a miss fire while reaching for it. I never think of being ambushed so it's not a good idea for me to keep doing it. I usually think about being in a well populated areas like a mall or something and how I would handle those types of situations.
This video was kind kind of and eye opener for me. I guess I'll be kitting up the range practicing my reach.
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Posted on 8/1/16 at 12:32 am to finchmeister08
YES!! Keep my ready to rock! No safety, 12# trigger.
Posted on 8/1/16 at 12:42 am to finchmeister08
In the words of Rooster Cogburn "It dont fire unless its loaded and cocked"
Posted on 8/1/16 at 12:58 am to finchmeister08
Most shootings happen just outside of arms reach. If you pull that gun out and spend time racking the slide, that's time the bad guy has to either attack you or swat it out of your hand. I know that if someone pulls a gun on me and I'm not armed, I'm going directly for it.
Practice, practice, practice your draw. It needs to be muscle memory that your pointer finger ends up on the slide when you pull the gun out.
Also, now that I've been carrying all of the time, I am more comfortable doing it and don't worry about it as much
Practice, practice, practice your draw. It needs to be muscle memory that your pointer finger ends up on the slide when you pull the gun out.
Also, now that I've been carrying all of the time, I am more comfortable doing it and don't worry about it as much
Posted on 8/1/16 at 1:03 am to finchmeister08
Honestly, you might as well keep it in the truck. The situations where you need to fire a shot, are not going to allow you time to rack the slide.
I actually get the hesitation, but what you're doing is pointless. I've not heard of many(any) cases of someone shooting themselves while drawing.
Get you a good holster.
I actually get the hesitation, but what you're doing is pointless. I've not heard of many(any) cases of someone shooting themselves while drawing.
Get you a good holster.
Posted on 8/1/16 at 1:25 am to SportTiger1
People actually shoot themselves more often than you think when drawling. Its usually from trying to go fast while practicing and they shoot themselves in the thigh or foot.
Dry fire. You really need to do it about 2 or 3 times a week for 10 minutes or so. Your draw must me muscle memory, it has to be the last thing you worry about if a situation arises. You lose about 30 percent of your skill when your adrenaline starts going.
Dry fire. You really need to do it about 2 or 3 times a week for 10 minutes or so. Your draw must me muscle memory, it has to be the last thing you worry about if a situation arises. You lose about 30 percent of your skill when your adrenaline starts going.
Posted on 8/1/16 at 1:34 am to finchmeister08
If you don't carry with a round in the chamber then you may as well carry a rock.
Posted on 8/1/16 at 2:18 am to finchmeister08
I may take a beating for this because I know the sides for and against safeties on a carry gun are highly polarized... But if you are not 100% comfortable with carrying a concealed pistol but 100% feel that you must carry, I highly recommend investing in a concealed pistol with a safety.
Then practice, practice and practice drawing from your holster while simultaneously disengaging the safety as you're bringing the pistol up to your line of sight.
Then practice some more!
Edit to add: *Disclaimer* - I don't believe that anyone who's not completely comfortable carrying should be carrying, however, I also don't believe someone should not be able to protect themselves as long as their willing to practice in order to become more comfortable and proficient.
Then practice, practice and practice drawing from your holster while simultaneously disengaging the safety as you're bringing the pistol up to your line of sight.
Then practice some more!
Edit to add: *Disclaimer* - I don't believe that anyone who's not completely comfortable carrying should be carrying, however, I also don't believe someone should not be able to protect themselves as long as their willing to practice in order to become more comfortable and proficient.
This post was edited on 8/1/16 at 2:29 am
Posted on 8/1/16 at 5:41 am to SportTiger1
quote:cause if you can't defend yourself in every situation, you should defend yourself in none
Honestly, you might as well keep it in the truck.
Posted on 8/1/16 at 5:53 am to finchmeister08
If you aren't ready to fire, the weapon isn't much good to you.
Posted on 8/1/16 at 6:22 am to kywildcatfanone
With no round in the chamber how do ya figure you can rack one in if you are in a struggle or your offhand is pinned down?
Posted on 8/1/16 at 6:28 am to finchmeister08
I would say practice drawing your pistol from the holster until you are comfortable with having a round in the chamber.
Posted on 8/1/16 at 6:33 am to HogsWillRiseAgain
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YES!! Keep my ready to rock!
I'd put 2 in the chamber if I could
Posted on 8/1/16 at 6:36 am to thejudge
I think most here have made a strong case for you to practice more and change your carry method to condition 1 (round chambered, safety on)or condition 0 (round chambered, no safety). I carry in condition 0 with both of my carry guns since neither have a manual safety.
To sum up the reasons to carry chambered:
1. The time a semi automatic pistol will malfunction more than any other time is when that first round is being manually racked into the chamber.
2. You may not successfully rack a round under stress. That may mean you short-stroke the slide or ride the slide forward and cause a misfeed. Either way, your handgun is no longer in a fighting condition.
3. You may not have time to rack the slide.
4. Most importantly, as was stated by others here, you may not have both hands available to rack the slide. And if you find yourself in one of these unfortunate situations, your gun will not be in a fighting condition.
I can understand your hesitation to carry chambered since it may feel more dangerous and make you nervous. All this means is you need more time carrying/practicing to build your confidence.
What I usually suggest to people who are hesitant is to carry in condition 3 (full mag, empty chamber) for just one week. Each time you take the gun off your body after the day is over, check to see if the trigger pulled itself. And once you make that subconscious connection that the trigger requires effort to pull, you'll slowly build your confidence.
To sum up the reasons to carry chambered:
1. The time a semi automatic pistol will malfunction more than any other time is when that first round is being manually racked into the chamber.
2. You may not successfully rack a round under stress. That may mean you short-stroke the slide or ride the slide forward and cause a misfeed. Either way, your handgun is no longer in a fighting condition.
3. You may not have time to rack the slide.
4. Most importantly, as was stated by others here, you may not have both hands available to rack the slide. And if you find yourself in one of these unfortunate situations, your gun will not be in a fighting condition.
I can understand your hesitation to carry chambered since it may feel more dangerous and make you nervous. All this means is you need more time carrying/practicing to build your confidence.
What I usually suggest to people who are hesitant is to carry in condition 3 (full mag, empty chamber) for just one week. Each time you take the gun off your body after the day is over, check to see if the trigger pulled itself. And once you make that subconscious connection that the trigger requires effort to pull, you'll slowly build your confidence.
This post was edited on 8/1/16 at 6:39 am
Posted on 8/1/16 at 6:42 am to finchmeister08
Yes!
When you need it you are going to need to use it almost immediately. Those two seconds it takes to chamber may mean difference between life and death
When you need it you are going to need to use it almost immediately. Those two seconds it takes to chamber may mean difference between life and death
Posted on 8/1/16 at 6:56 am to finchmeister08
It is not just practicing the mechanics of draw and fire but you have to be mentally prepared. Lots of folks say they could shoot to kill but many if not most would hesitate and that is how a criminal gets the advantage.
Tough guys like to say I would have no problem but for your own safety you need to really soul search and ask yourself could you shoot to kill
You need to be honest with yourself
Tough guys like to say I would have no problem but for your own safety you need to really soul search and ask yourself could you shoot to kill
You need to be honest with yourself
Posted on 8/1/16 at 7:17 am to finchmeister08
Mostly depends on what kind of gun you have tbh. Since i've had my G19 i do not keep one in the chamber(no safety).
I carry with mine at 5 oclock and have practiced a lot pulling the firearm and racking the slide as the weapon is exiting my waistband. I feel confident that the action of racking as i'm pulling would not be detrimental to my survival if an encounter arises.
I do not want any chance of shooting myself no matter how minuscule the odds are of it happening.One finger gets inside of that trigger guard at any time and it's going boom. Not going to take that chance.
I carry with mine at 5 oclock and have practiced a lot pulling the firearm and racking the slide as the weapon is exiting my waistband. I feel confident that the action of racking as i'm pulling would not be detrimental to my survival if an encounter arises.
I do not want any chance of shooting myself no matter how minuscule the odds are of it happening.One finger gets inside of that trigger guard at any time and it's going boom. Not going to take that chance.
Posted on 8/1/16 at 7:25 am to finchmeister08
Semi auto or a wheel gun ?
Posted on 8/1/16 at 7:26 am to bapple
Bapple:
i've seen condition 0 and condition 1 mentioned.
Where is there a list describing each "condition"?
Seems like I've seen some misleading definitions of "condition".
i've seen condition 0 and condition 1 mentioned.
Where is there a list describing each "condition"?
Seems like I've seen some misleading definitions of "condition".
Posted on 8/1/16 at 7:33 am to finchmeister08
Yes, this is life, not the movies.
Glocks have three safeties, trigger safety, firing pin safety and drop safety.
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Since i've had my G19 i do not keep one in the chamber(no safety).
Glocks have three safeties, trigger safety, firing pin safety and drop safety.
This post was edited on 8/1/16 at 7:37 am
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