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Can anyone estimate the cost of converting a ditch to culverts?

Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:10 am
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:10 am
I'm tired of spending 30 minutes just weedeating the ditch. Let's say 100'. Also, would I just have to get a permit from the parish/city to do so? I really have no idea what's involved.
Posted by stein_burgundy
Member since Jan 2016
831 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:13 am to
Instead of weedeating, spray some roundup.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4723 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:29 am to
Culverts are cheap. It's the catch basins which in our Parish are required every 40 feet. Depending on size of culvert needed they can be about 800+ a piece.
100ft with 2 catch basins and with small pipe could be about 3k if you do it yourself. If you need dirt and someone to do it for you probably closer to 4k
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Also, would I just have to get a permit from the parish/city to do so? I really have no idea what's involved.


Yes! My previous home had an open ditch and was designated yo stay that way. Check with your homeowners association.

Lots of details, but there has to be a catch basin (drain) every 50-75 ft or so (in Lafayette).

Definitely a permitted job thru city IF allowed at all
Posted by Alleman
St. George
Member since Apr 2013
741 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:30 am to
Depends on where you live. Two suggestions are to:

1) call the drainage department or planning commission/zoning authority for your city/parish/county;
2) call a local company who sells culverts.

Good luck and post what you find out.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:35 am to
We don't have a homeowners association. I actually want to have culverts for a couple reasons. I need some fill dirt in one spot in my lawn and I have a friend who runs a trucking company and will bring me free dirt, but he said his big truck will crack my driveway. I also need to gain a couple parking spots for parties. So the roundup method isn't an option.
I might just do one side of the driveway to start if the parish will even allow me to do it. The guy down the street doesn't have ditches, however I'm not sure if they were in place prior to any new regulations or what. I suppose I could walk down and ask him.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:38 am to
My parents had culverts installed. They bought the culverts and the town came in and installed and covered them for free. I guess it depends on where you live.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34301 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 9:47 am to
You are typically required to have a permit. You will probably also not be able to just drop a pipe into the ditch and cover it. You will need to dig it bigger to accommodate a larger culvert that will provide proper conveyance of water.

All of this is to ensure that your project doesn't cause drainage problems upstream for the following issues:

1. Open ditches provide much better water conveyance and additional storage during rain events.
2. Pipe/culverts laid too high (invert elevation) can cause pooling upstream (mosquitos) and affect flow.
3. Insufficient soil coverage (especially if you plan to drive over it ever) can result in collapse and loss of flow.
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4587 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:04 am to
I'm looking for a contractor in Baton Rouge to review a similar project. I've already had EBR city engineering provide specifications for the job (15" Reinforced Concrete Pipe (RCP) or 15" Polyvinyl Chloride Pipe (PVC)).
Posted by Pepperidge
Slidell
Member since Apr 2011
4313 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:06 am to
find some elephant ears growing somewhere and pull up a bunch and plant them especially if the ditch stays wet a lot...

I looked into the same thing here in slidell.

technically you don't need a permit unless you are covering large linear footage...even then you don't need a permit, the parish would just like to see a drawing/proposal for their peace of mind...

neighbor-I-5'open-I-(max of 50')-I-Catch basin-I

any existing driveway you have if connecting to counts towards the 50' measurement.

you have to have 4" of sand or gravel under the culvert
joints need to wrapped
has to have proper grade
Where I am culvert minimum is 15 inch, but if you are connecting to a larger downstream culvert(ex.18") then it has to be that size

call or email Jay Watson...he was very helpful with my project even though I decided not to do it...

Jay Watson
Development Engineer
Department of Planning and Development
St. Tammany Parish Government
21490 Koop Drive, Mandeville, LA 70471
p: 985.809.7448 e: jwatson@stpgov.org
This post was edited on 7/29/16 at 10:37 am
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1317 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:18 am to
It depends some ditches require 18" culverts while others require 48". Obviously there is a difference in cost.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:24 am to
I know in WBR, you just have to get the materials and the parish will install for you. I think they even install the catch basins as well.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23701 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:40 am to
Be careful. Open ditches have much larger carrying and storing capacity than culverts. There was a subdivision in Broussard which was designed with open ditch drainage but the city allowed and even helped some of the homeowners put in culverts and close ditches. Really bad sustained rain events happen every two years or so. Well, the next really bad sustained rain put water in a dozen houses because of the bottlenecks and reduced drainage capacity.
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:40 am to
quote:

It depends some ditches require 18" culverts while others require 48". Obviously there is a difference in cost.


There is a HUGE difference in cost once you step up to 18" and 24" culverts.

Just for reference on Black Corrugated pipe:
15" Pipe - $9-$10/ft
18" Pipe - $12-$14/ft
24" Pipe - $18-$21/ft

Typically your drainage board will have a map of the area with drainage requirements. You should get this information through the permitting process.

Our parish will set the pipe or driveway culverts for $20/ft if you supply the pipe. They supply the labor and the dirt.

Our neighborhood requires a drain box every 80'... they add some significant cost to the project.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Instead of weedeating, spray some roundup

Or even better, Triox or equivalent.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:51 am to
If you can get the parish to install them for you, call Coastal Culverts in Eunice (337-546-6887) and ask for Karen. They deal in Nyoplast boxes also (much cheaper than concrete catch basins). You will save some money by going to get them, but they will deliver if necessary.
Posted by Palo Gaucho
Benton
Member since Jul 2013
3334 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 10:54 am to
I think I paid $400 for a 24', 24" galvanized culvert a month or so ago.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21922 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:27 am to
I'm in LaFourche, I need 80' of 24" oval with a catch basin installed and was quoted $1800

Allemands Culverts
Carl Adams
Adrian Chauvin Construction

All about the same price.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10401 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:36 am to
I'm wondering if when I call the parish I need to give them some kind of reason other than aesthetic and convenience purposes. "Well if you have a drainage issue well do them, but if you want them because you want a pretty lawn, then you have to pay."
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21922 posts
Posted on 7/29/16 at 11:37 am to
What parish?
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