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Posted on 10/4/12 at 11:24 pm
Posted by OhOhSeven
Texas Coast
Member since Nov 2011
115 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 11:24 pm
I entered into a verbal agreement with an owner of a really nice piece of prime land to lease for deer season. After talking with the owner for a while on the phone things sounded good. I went with a buddy to go check the place out. Everything looked great. Covered in tracks and trails and scared up 4 deer in the middle of the afternoon. Told the owner that we have a deal so the owner worked up the lease and emailed it to me. Got the lease today and it seems like the owner has jumped off the deep end. These are things that the owner put in the lease which I thought seemed a bit over the top, but I wanted to post them here to double check to see if these rules are common practice and I am going to have to expect these rules on future leases or if the owner is being too controlling.

Allowing owner to lease the land out for hunting from under the paid hunters

Requiring all feeders to be set to go off at the same time at the time the owner mandates

Requiring hunters to sign in when they arrive at property and when they sit in blinds

Getting pre approval for persons accompanying hunter before going on the land

Leaving jawbones of deer at a designated location for record keeping

Requiring a minimum 12 hour call ahead of planning to go hunt

Can only hunt hogs during deer season

Not to mention that virtually none of what we discussed and agreed to on the phone (squirrel hunting, dove hunting, etc). was in the lease.

I decided it wasn't worth my money even though it is a really nice piece of land.

Did I make the right decision?
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
10777 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 11:28 pm to
That is not typical. Dude sounds like an over bearing control freak. 12 hour rule?? Sounds like he wants to set this deal up with two groups and manage it to where the groups never cross paths or something.
Posted by OhOhSeven
Texas Coast
Member since Nov 2011
115 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 11:33 pm to
Thats what I'm thinking also. The lease requires all feeders be full at all times.
Posted by DieselTiger1
9 Dragon
Member since Oct 2008
13672 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 12:10 am to
quote:

Sounds like he wants to set this deal up with two groups and manage it to where the groups never cross paths or something.



this.

I would stay away from this dude. even if you get the lease set up the way you want, I wouldn't trust what he's doing when you aren't there.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22630 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 12:51 am to
Unless its got great deer and doesn't cost that much I would stay away. You may show up and find all your feeders and stands are "missing".
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
10777 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 2:07 am to
I can not wait till the day crew gets a hold of this one. Guy has got to me a homer.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22630 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 3:02 am to
quote:

I can not wait till the day crew gets a hold of this one

Should be good
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 5:56 am to
I'd rather a shitty piece of land with freedom than a great piece with all that bs.

This is America, dammit!
Posted by windriver
West Monroe/San Diego
Member since Mar 2006
8656 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 6:06 am to
Those terms are unacceptable.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 6:44 am to
quote:

Those terms are unacceptable.


This! Call him and tell him he is NUTS! Don't walk, run away.
Posted by greasemonkey
Macclenny Fl aka south JAWJA
Member since Aug 2012
2764 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 6:46 am to
Buck that. I definitely would not lease with those rules.
pretty shitty to agree to something verbally and then change it up in the paperwork.

something is definitely not on the up and up

Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
4139 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:24 am to
It appears to me that he was pretty obviously planning to have you work the land and set everything up, then he would bring in paying day hunters to hunt your stands. Pretty messed up...
Posted by El Josey Wales
Greater Geismar
Member since Nov 2007
22710 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:47 am to
Call him and tell him he must have sent the wrong lease terms by mistake. Surely that must have been intended as a joke email or something.

That dude is nuts.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Did I make the right decision?



Where in the hell is this place? I've been involved in many a lease agreements and have never heard of some of this.
Posted by Bien Fou
Laffy
Member since Jul 2009
2039 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:52 am to
This dude fell off his rocker.... I would not trust him...i have never heard of such rules!
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 8:06 am
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:10 am to
Yeah frick that
Posted by OhOhSeven
Texas Coast
Member since Nov 2011
115 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:11 am to
It's in south texas. We went out there and the place is really top notch and the price wasn't too bad. We discussed coyote, dove, hog, deer (1 trophy, 1 spike, and any MLD permits the owner didn't want (said typically it is about 6-8 does for the land and the hunters would split up 6 of them), racoon, and squirrel hunting (basically anything but bob cats (even if I shot a bob cat I couldn't get it in a decent mount amirite???), and foxes).

The owner agreed to this. And since we are hunting so many things you would think it would be a year long or at least during a typical game season. We get the papers and it is explicitly mentioned that it is only bucks and hogs (only 1 trophy buck, 1 spike and 2 hogs per hunter) and said that the hunters have no right to the MLD permits. The lease would be restricted to only regular season deer. AND we could only shoot hogs during deer season.

We ran like hell from this place and sent the owner an electronic middle finger via email.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Call him and tell him he must have sent the wrong lease terms by mistake. Surely that must have been intended as a joke email or something

I would have to tell him how fn stupid he was. Also how sorry he is for going back on his word from the verbal agreement.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:02 am to
that's a pretty crafty way of getting someone else to do all your work for you(ie. build stands, place and fill feeders, clear shooting lanes) while the owner continues to hunt AND gets paid. Pretty sharp on his part. I was in a Creole bayou duck lease like this some years ago. they get a new sucker every year, b/c last year's sucker realizes how bad he got screwed.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39857 posts
Posted on 10/5/12 at 9:10 am to
quote:


It appears to me that he was pretty obviously planning to have you work the land and set everything up, then he would bring in paying day hunters to hunt your stands. Pretty messed up...


I'm a complete novice and this is what was running through my mind as I read the OP...
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