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re: Boat trailer discussion. Best setup?

Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:25 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:25 am to
Lots on the Ranger trailers up here.
Posted by Barf
EBR
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:25 am to
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Like the article I posted said Barf, oil bath hubs that get dunked and not rotated regularly = trouble. You don't dunk yours, so probably why they've lasted so long.


Even the people that I know who submerge their hubs have not hand any issues. One of those trailers is 5 years old and the hubs have never been serviced. The bolster brackets and rollers have been replaced twice but the hubs have never been touched.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:27 am to
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What's that? Rust? Mine are pretty rusted also.

Yeah, the flat plates on top of the support arms all rusted out. I don't think the previous owner ever sprayed off the trailer after a salt trip.

The fix,

Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:28 am to
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Even the people that I know who submerge their hubs have not hand any issues. One of those trailers is 5 years old and the hubs have never been serviced. The bolster brackets and rollers have been replaced twice but the hubs have never been touched.


May be a different/better brand than on the Ranger trailers . But I'd never put hubs on my boat that required me to rotate them every couple of weeks. That's not what I consider "maintenence free".
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 11:31 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:30 am to
Oh, and mine were not Ranger. Ranger just happens to be the most common single user.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:33 am to
Who was the manufacturer of the hubs? Maybe Barf has a different brand.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:33 am to
Can't recall.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:36 am to
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What's that? Rust? Mine are pretty rusted also


yep, welds don't look to good
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:46 am to
My trailer is in some serious need of TLC. The u-bolts / nuts are just about rusted out and will have to be cut off. The previous owner did install an extra axle so the boat is capable of being supported by only two of them and that is very nice to know that i have the safety factor in the event of a blow out. I have trailered the boat with one tire being damn near flat and didn't notice till after at my destination. Longest tow so far was from Dauphin Island AL to Houma LA. No issues just checked hubs at rest stops for signs of excessive heat. Also kept my speed under 65 mph on the hwy.

I am seriously thinking about getting sport trail in Bay St. Louis MS to build me a new aluminum trailer as i think it will be damn near 1/4 the cost to rehab my current one. I am in need of 7 new tires at the moment
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 11:47 am
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:09 pm to
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But I'd never put hubs on my boat that required me to rotate them every couple of weeks. That's not what I consider "maintenence free"


What you're saying doesn't make sense. You don't rotate the gears in your lower unit every couple of weeks, do you? So why in the hell would you rotate the hubs? It's not any different. They even use the exact same oil.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:12 pm to
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I am in need of 7 new tires at the moment
WTH? You've got a triple axle trailer? What size/type boat?

BTW, I also drive 65 mph max when towing. I'm paranoid about that extra 5 mph.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:14 pm to
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What you're saying doesn't make sense. You don't rotate the gears in your lower unit every couple of weeks, do you? So why in the hell would you rotate the hubs? It's not any different. They even use the exact same oil.
I'm referring to the article I posted earlier about condensation getting in them and having to rotate the hubs every couple of weeks to keep the bearings from pitting.
Posted by Who Me
Ascension
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:39 pm to
Bhtigherfan

You really should go talk to Mike Gerald at his dealership on Airline Hwy. I had similar concerns when I purchased my rig in 2011. He really sold me on the Vault hubs I believe they are similar to the Votex hubs mentioned earlier in the thread

When you hear about problems with oil bathed hubs they are probably the traditional oil bath hubs that first came out and were plagued with problems as conveyed to me by Mike Gerald. These new ones are a type of Hybrid. Check out the link



Not your regular oil bathed hubs
Posted by Who Me
Ascension
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:42 pm to
I last spoke to Mike Gerald about these hubs several years ago at which time he told me that with all the service business he has done he had yet to have one of these hubs come in for mechanical failure of the hub. Said he only had a few come in for minor things such as an outer cap popping off.


I've had zero problems with mine since 2011.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:02 pm to
Thanks bro.
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:10 pm to
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On long trips every time you stop for gas or food, check behind the rims for grease splatters. If the hubs are a little warm or cool to the touch and there are no grease splatters you are good to go.


Dumb question:


If you find grease splatters then what are you suppose to do?
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 2:11 pm
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:13 pm to
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WTH? You've got a triple axle trailer? What size/type boat?


Yep. Triple axle trailer with 225/75/R15 tires plus spare. Three 5,000 lb axles. Boat is a World Cat 266SF center console with twin 175 Suzuki four strokes. With 240 gallons of fuel i am close to 9,000 lbs on trailer.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:16 pm to
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If you find grease splatters then what are you suppose to do?
It usually means you've blown out the rear seal and most of the grease on the rear seal has leaked out. If you're on the road when this happens, you may be able to pump more grease into the front grease zert to lube the rear seal some (and get you to your destination) but they will burn up eventually because it can't hold grease. You'll have to replace the rear seal to fix the problem.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 2:21 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:19 pm to
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With 240 gallons of fuel i am close to 9,000 lbs on trailer.
Yeah, heavy boats like that are a serious PITA to tow long distance.

You should look into some 12 ply tires like I had on my 40 ft. minifloat. Damn things are indestructible and can handle some serious weight.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:27 pm to
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