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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:52 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Who's to say he was hauling arse? He very well could have been, but he also could've been putt putting along, it doesn't take much to frick shite up even going slow when you strike an object in a boat.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:01 am to JAB528
We don't know for sure, and yes you can frick a boat completely up by hitting a stationary object while going pretty slow, but to eject 3 people with enough force to kill one you have to be going fast. I've been taken out at night by a charter captain and he went flat-out. My impression was that they all do that.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:02 am to JAB528
I doubt he was hauling arse, but it's probably safe to say he was on step, and with that kind of weight in the boat, you pretty much can figure it out.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:19 am to wahoocs
I know someone who hit a tree going about 20 in a mud boat. Nobody flew out of the boat. The abrupt stop made them hit the deck and front deck hard and really messed them up. Two of the three passengers needed surgery of some sort to repair broken bones.
I fish around east timbalier sometimes and I don't think people know how close they are to hitting giant piles and rocks that are just under the water. People pass the same area over and over again thinking the water is safe when they might've been six inches from sinking their boat every time. I'm sure this guy knew the area very well but I'm really shocked that there aren't more accidents on the coast with all of the weekend warriors. I know from being around that island at low tide that I've been lucky and there's areas like that all along the coast.
I fish around east timbalier sometimes and I don't think people know how close they are to hitting giant piles and rocks that are just under the water. People pass the same area over and over again thinking the water is safe when they might've been six inches from sinking their boat every time. I'm sure this guy knew the area very well but I'm really shocked that there aren't more accidents on the coast with all of the weekend warriors. I know from being around that island at low tide that I've been lucky and there's areas like that all along the coast.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 11:24 am
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:44 am to bigbuckdj
Like many others in this thread, it would take me all day to tell you stories about boating accidents. Unfortunately, even some from personal experience.
It's much like riding motorcycles and horses. They all have a story. But running at night w/o radar or Q-beam is reckless.
My nieces coach died w his wife at 11pm about 2 weeks ago in Lake Conroe. My last offshore trip was w a guy who lost a friend during the Tarpon Rodeo when their boat just grazed a piling that hit his head. On and on and on.
It's much like riding motorcycles and horses. They all have a story. But running at night w/o radar or Q-beam is reckless.
My nieces coach died w his wife at 11pm about 2 weeks ago in Lake Conroe. My last offshore trip was w a guy who lost a friend during the Tarpon Rodeo when their boat just grazed a piling that hit his head. On and on and on.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:47 am to Cooter Davenport
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And no, lights aren't the answer. Lights on a boat don't work like lights on a car. The best thing to do is use a Q beam on occasion to spotlight the bouys to be sure you are in the channel. Otherwise drive by the moonlight. No you can't see for shite. But that's why you go slow at night or not at all. Jamming along at 60 at night like so many do seems crazy to me
Man I learned this the hard way. Launched out of Freshwater City to do some speck fishing at the nearby rigs in the gulf. Brought my spotlight thinking I would use it like when I go duck hunting in the bayou. It was completely useless. Couldn't see shite. It was scary as shite. Went like 10-15mph the whole time
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:47 am to wahoocs
Sure one was seated in front of the console and hit the front of the bow on the way out. Probably broke his neck. Just speculation.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:49 am to wahoocs
Drive slow in reduced visibility no matter what type of equipment you have, and if you don't have a radar, follow your GPS track. Unfortunanty, this was an act of poor captianing skills/decisions.
Condolences to family and friends of the deceased. This shouldn't have happened...period.
Condolences to family and friends of the deceased. This shouldn't have happened...period.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:55 am to Grassy1
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Just curious, how slow is slow enough for people not to get thrown out of a bay boat or slammed into the console or deck, when you hit a solid structure?
10 knots is the norm for most professionals, but there is nothing wrong with idling 4-6 knots or just bumping it in and out of gear in areas full of obstructions. It's not just your life, it's the lives that people have put into your hands.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:01 pm to Sparkplug#1
It obviously depends on size and load in the boat.
If you don't plane, you can't see over the bow in many boats.
If you don't plane, you can't see over the bow in many boats.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:01 pm to Sparkplug#1
Interesting that his bio says night fishing is his thing.
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Captain Mike Ledet At 48, Mike is in his prime with no signs of slowing down. A charter captain out of the Sportsman's Paradise for more than 30 years, Mike specializes in bay and marsh fishing. Mike's real expertise is in night fishing and he is simply the best and most experienced night captain going. He has built artificial reefs for trout and once he lights up his location, the trout and reds come calling. Mike is available 12 months a year, so if night fishing in the warm months is your bag, Captain Mike Ledet is your man. His catch records are all the proof you need for a successful trip. Pictures don't lie. It is a rare occasion when Mike doesn't limit out.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:25 pm to tgrbaitn08
I can't tell you how many people I see running at night w no
Ingots and running wide open..
A close call many moons ago taught me 1 important lesson - slow down at night ....
And everyone needs a Pfd on at night. You hit the water unexpectedly in the dark your odds of surviving are minimal -
Surprised captain was following an exact charted course in and out via gps....
Ingots and running wide open..
A close call many moons ago taught me 1 important lesson - slow down at night ....
And everyone needs a Pfd on at night. You hit the water unexpectedly in the dark your odds of surviving are minimal -
Surprised captain was following an exact charted course in and out via gps....
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:18 pm to Athanatos
It's crazy to think about how many times my friends and I have run out to the Mardi Gras Rig and back to Jug's in straight darkness out there. Unbelievable to think something like this could happen. This is the exact reason why I run my boat at 30 mph MAX whether it be Day or night. At night I tend to run 25ish but I just have ever seen the need to run faster than that in a boat. Praying for everyone involved and will likely put on a life jacket next time I head out to Mardi Gras at night with no moon
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:49 pm to lodgedup
we run 10 knots at night, in the open gulf, with radar and gps. I would never go 10 knots, much less 30, inshore. that's crazy.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:33 pm to El Jefe
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we run 10 knots at night, in the open gulf, with radar and gps. I would never go 10 knots, much less 30, inshore. that's crazy.
I am never in a hurry in the dark, anymore......
wise man el jefe
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:37 pm to El Jefe
I was white knuckled running at night through Bay Eloise and Bayou La Loutre with Radar, FLIR, and DGPS....
The night is dark and full of terrors.
Prayers sent, RIP.
The night is dark and full of terrors.
Prayers sent, RIP.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:44 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
I fished the area last Thursday and know it pretty well. I would never attempt to run it at night. I believe the capt is a Terrebonne parish employee if I have the right guy. He's been chartering down that way a long time.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:58 pm to BK Kush
I agree going slow is best in the dark, however for many boats 10 MPH wuould be worse.
I'll use my boat as an example due to the position of my radar I need to be on plane for it to see properly otherwise it will miss what is right in front of me. In the dark I run as slow as my boat will go on plane about 20 mph.
The guide in question could have been doing that and still injured someone.
I'll use my boat as an example due to the position of my radar I need to be on plane for it to see properly otherwise it will miss what is right in front of me. In the dark I run as slow as my boat will go on plane about 20 mph.
The guide in question could have been doing that and still injured someone.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:18 pm to lodgedup
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At night I tend to run 25ish
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and will likely put on a life jacket next time I head out
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