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re: Best handgun purchase for lefty
Posted on 6/8/14 at 8:11 pm to rednecksouthpaw
Posted on 6/8/14 at 8:11 pm to rednecksouthpaw
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I am looking to purchase my 1st pistol.
Check out my video on choosing your first pistol. There are a lot of factors to consider.
First Time Firearm Buyers
I would assume you probably will be purchasing something full sized and not for carry. This would also be my suggestion as shooting a smaller handgun is much more difficult. Learn on something large first before learning to shoot a smaller gun for carry. Then carry often.
My vote is the S&W M&P - ambi slide release, optional ambi safety, and flippable mag release. But then again, the choice will ultimately be yours.
Posted on 6/8/14 at 8:36 pm to bapple
I'd recommend one of the all steel CZ's with ambidextrous safeties. A previous poster that said they can be had for under $300 which is wrong. You will be lucky to find one under $500, but in my opinion, they are worth twice that amount.
Posted on 6/8/14 at 8:39 pm to bapple
quote:
the choice will ultimately be yours.
And anybody with any kind of love for America would be getting a wheelgun
Posted on 6/8/14 at 9:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I doubt I'd ever sell or trade a S&W .357 steel revolver with a 3-4" barrel.
Posted on 6/8/14 at 10:52 pm to SabiDojo
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a good revolver. They are awesome, especially for beginners.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:33 pm to Bill Parker?
To the original question- again, as a lefty, I've found no problem shooting guns without ambidextrous safeties and slide releases. I own several guns with such controls, but my actual favorite is a CZ 75 without them. Like I said before, guns are a lot like scissors for us southpaws; you quickly pick up on how to manipulate the controls with whatever hand you use. And the most important control, the trigger, IS ambidextrous
Find the best handgun for yourself, in terms of shooting, handling, balance. That might be a CZ, a Sig, a Beretta, a 1911, or whatever. It's far more important to be able to shoot it confidently and with skill, than to worry about where the safety is.
More folks find the question of where the controls are placed (slide vs frame safety; 1911 vs Sig controls; mag release by the trigger vs the heel of the grip) to be a bigger issue than on what side the controls are.
Also big is the action of the gun; double action vs single, cocked and locked vs decocker, etc.
Frame material- steel, alloy, or composite.
Go try some representatives of these types, and see what you like best.
The most important thing is that if you ever need to use it, your hand needs to know what to do, so whatever you get, go shoot it until you are comfortable with it.
For me, with semiautos, I treat every gun as though it is a single action (others do differently). I leave the chamber empty, and rack the slide (safety off) as I draw and prepare to fire. This way, for me, it's a simple memory action that is repetitive, and I do it fast. I don't worry about safeties or anything, it's cocked and ready to fire; and the single action trigger is always better for me.
Enjoy your search.
Find the best handgun for yourself, in terms of shooting, handling, balance. That might be a CZ, a Sig, a Beretta, a 1911, or whatever. It's far more important to be able to shoot it confidently and with skill, than to worry about where the safety is.
More folks find the question of where the controls are placed (slide vs frame safety; 1911 vs Sig controls; mag release by the trigger vs the heel of the grip) to be a bigger issue than on what side the controls are.
Also big is the action of the gun; double action vs single, cocked and locked vs decocker, etc.
Frame material- steel, alloy, or composite.
Go try some representatives of these types, and see what you like best.
The most important thing is that if you ever need to use it, your hand needs to know what to do, so whatever you get, go shoot it until you are comfortable with it.
For me, with semiautos, I treat every gun as though it is a single action (others do differently). I leave the chamber empty, and rack the slide (safety off) as I draw and prepare to fire. This way, for me, it's a simple memory action that is repetitive, and I do it fast. I don't worry about safeties or anything, it's cocked and ready to fire; and the single action trigger is always better for me.
Enjoy your search.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:39 pm to Tbobby
quote:I was referring to the CZ 82, which is under $300. You won't find a true CZ 75 much under $500, but you can grab a good clone for around $300 or so. Check out the Canik Stingray at JG Sales for $319; it's a fine shooter.
I'd recommend one of the all steel CZ's with ambidextrous safeties. A previous poster that said they can be had for under $300 which is wrong. You will be lucky to find one under $500, but in my opinion, they are worth twice that amount.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 10:40 pm to rednecksouthpaw
Short list
Ruger SR9 or SR9c
Walther PPQ or P99
Smith & Wesson M&P
HK P30 or P2000
HS2000 aka Springfield XD
Ruger SR9 or SR9c
Walther PPQ or P99
Smith & Wesson M&P
HK P30 or P2000
HS2000 aka Springfield XD
Posted on 6/10/14 at 4:50 am to Scoob
I bought a brand new cz75b a couple of weeks ago and it was $520 from the factory. The store owner that I delivered it to looked at the paperwork to make sure it was all in order and it had the receipt in it. He just said "that's a steal".
Great deals are out there... Just gotta search and be patient.
Great deals are out there... Just gotta search and be patient.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 6:09 am to rednecksouthpaw
Many Sig models have a reversible magazine release. Lefties have to use the trigger finger, rather than thumb on the decocker, but there are no other control issues. Only a handful of Sigs have manual safeties (1911s and 232 most notably).
With any pistol, the ejection might by a slight issue for lefties.
A revolver might be the best choice - Ruger GP100 would be a good choice.
With any pistol, the ejection might by a slight issue for lefties.
A revolver might be the best choice - Ruger GP100 would be a good choice.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:56 am to Ace Midnight
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With any pistol, the ejection might by a slight issue for lefties.
A revolver might be the best choice - Ruger GP100 would be a good choice.
No problems with ejection for me. With the exception being revolvers. Most were designed for right hand people and executing a reload on a revolver is something that I'd rather not deal with or attempt in a hairy situation. The easiest way would be to switch hands and do it like a right handed person, but then again I'd rather not switch hands in the middle of a fight. Just my opinion.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:08 pm to CptRusty
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gen 4 glock. pick your caliber.
This is the correct answer.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:13 pm to Shexter
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HK P30
Only logical choice. And Im left handed and own a few of them .357 six shooter is close 2nd.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:57 pm to lsu mike
Think I am gonna go with the Walther PPQ M2. It just felt good in my hands
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:38 pm to rednecksouthpaw
quote:And that is the number 1 requirement in a handgun; you have to practice to become good with a gun, and you have to like it to want to practice!
Think I am gonna go with the Walther PPQ M2. It just felt good in my hands
I read a quick review on Waltherforums LINK, and it sounds like you got a nice pistol. Per the review, the one thing to be aware/careful of, is that it has no external safety- if a bullet is chambered and you pull the trigger, it will shoot. Just something to be mindful of, when you pick it up (and when you store it).
Since this is your first pistol (and you asked for opinions), I'll risk some unsolicited advice:
1) spend the $10 bucks or so to get some snap caps in that caliber, and use those to dryfire and practice racking the slide. It's good insurance for the parts to have something in the chamber, and to have one in the magazine when you release the slide (it can be hard on various parts to both dry fire, and to freely release the slide on an empty chamber). It's good to safely dry fire, as it smooths up the trigger, and you learn where the trigger "breaks"
2) rotate the magazines every so often; if you keep one fully loaded you eventually run the risk of the springs losing tension.
Enjoy your Walther!
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:01 pm to Scoob
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Per the review, the one thing to be aware/careful of, is that it has no external safety- if a bullet is chambered and you pull the trigger, it will shoot.
Same is true with Glock, Springfield, S&W, Kahr, any revovler, etc etc. Sure a couple models have external safeties, but the majority dont.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:20 pm to Scoob
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Think I am gonna go with the Walther PPQ M2. It just felt good in my hands
And that is the number 1 requirement in a handgun;
No offense intended, but "feels good in your hands" is way down the list of important attributes for a self-defense pistol.
So are "sexy, cool, hot, hawt, sweet and badass."
1. Get a gun that has the reputation of being the most reliable handgun on this planet. This is always step #1. You've now pretty much limited your choices to Glocks, M&P's H-K's and SIGS.
2. Get a gun w/o an external safety. If this is a show-stopper, you don't need a self-defense gun. If you're gonna fiddle with the little levers, buttons and switches, you don't need a gun of any kind.
3. Get a gun with a consistent trigger pull. This means the trigger is SA only, or DA only. It means not buying a handgun that has a SA/DA trigger.
4. Get one that holds enough ammo to take care of two or three thugs. Don't assume BG's they will run away like little girls just because you pull out your piece -- assume they're members of a BR or N.O. street gang and are gonna try to stuff your pistol into your rectal cavity.
And assume that you may miss with 50-70% of your shots. Nationwide cops miss with 80% of theirs.
So you may need plenty of ammo -- especially if you encounter some dudes in a gang, or dudes smoking meth, or dudes smoking bath salts, or dudes who are schizophrenic. Just because you can't hear the voices doesn't mean the BG can't hear them -- and the voices may be telling him to bust a cap in your arse.
5. Forget price, forget nickel or chrome plating, and forget exotic wood. You want a gun that goes "pew pew" every time you pull the trigger ......... and you want a gun that doesn't go "pew pew" when you don't pull the trigger.
6. Forget the cute little mouse gun that fits so well in your Levi pockets. It's a bit difficult to draw your poodle shooter while sea-belted into your truck, at a traffic light, when a young urban thug decides to jack your ride.
Just my $.02 -- you may find different opinions, or a better price, on the interwebz.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:26 pm to dawg23
Man, external safety guns have done well since, well...before WWI. Training and practice. Your post just reminds me of glock thigh...you know, accidentally discharge into your carry side leg which usually occurs during the draw of the glock.
Your list of 4 acceptable guns to carry is horrendous. And being comfortable with your carry piece in up there, if you are not comfortable you likely won't carry.
I'm not a Walther guy but I would surly carry that if I felt comfortable with it.
Your list of 4 acceptable guns to carry is horrendous. And being comfortable with your carry piece in up there, if you are not comfortable you likely won't carry.
I'm not a Walther guy but I would surly carry that if I felt comfortable with it.
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