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Anyone do any fly tying?

Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:43 pm
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4205 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:43 pm
Going to be getting into fly fishing a good bit this summer and would love to try to tie my own flies. For those of you that have done it, did you buy a kit to get started or did you just buy things separately?
What do you think's essential for fly tying?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24992 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:49 pm to
I bought a kit and upgraded as I advanced

ETA: Quality bobbin and scissors make it easier.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 8:51 pm
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1311 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:57 pm to
I bought a vise, a set of basic tools, and the specific materials for a couple of flies I wanted to tie. Then I just added tools and materials as I needed them till I now have way more crap laying around than I thought possible. Looking back I think that was the right way to go.

The materials kits are crap, stay away from those.

Essentials are vise, bobbin, and scissors. Nice to have are bodkin, whip finishing tool, rotating hackle pliers, more bobbins, more scissors, hackle gage, hair stacker, one of those marker spray gun kits...

I highly recommend one of those magnifying lamps. Wish I had bought mine sooner.
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4205 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:04 pm to
Thanks for the advice guys.

Where do you buy your materials and stuff from?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:10 pm to
Get a kit with the vice, bobbin and scissors. Go middle of the road... More than $19.99, but no more than $100.

I buy my thread from walmart. It's extremely over priced as "fly tying thread" at fly shops. Get some hooks (size 10 to 16) and brass bead heads, and some materials like flash, wool, hackle or deer hair of colors you like.

You can learn a lot from YouTube videos.

This is my little set up.

Posted by BooDreaux
Orlandeaux
Member since Sep 2011
3300 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:46 pm to
Get a quality fly tying vise.....Renzetti, they are expensive but well worth the cost.

LINK

They are located about 35 miles east of Orlando in Titusville......Andy & Lily are great people who give a great deal back to the community....especially to survivors of breast cancer

Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4646 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:59 pm to
Agree on Renzetti.
Posted by iman48
Ozarks
Member since Jul 2012
73 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:40 am to
What kind of fly fishing are you going to do? Do you have a friend that ties? Videos are great, but you will learn faster if you have someone to watch and help you. Try out different vises to see what feels better to you. My favorite is a Regal, but I have several vises for teaching my family or friends. I would get more than one bobbin. Keeps you from having to change thread if you tie a different fly. A whip finisher isn't a necessity, but it makes a nice looking head quickly.

Buy the materials you need, not a kit. I scrounge for lots of mine. I save squirrel tails. I have friends that save wood duck feathers for me, and turkey tail feathers. I look for dubbing materials everywhere. Check out Goodwill for coats with fur collars, or even whole fur coats. If they are worn or torn, it won't bother the fishing, and the price will be better.

Don't be discouraged when your first efforts don't look quite like the pattern. It's a sharp learning curve; you'll improve quickly. The thrill of fooling a fish with a fly I've tied never gets old.
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1311 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 7:24 am to
I've got a cabelas by work and a localish shop by the house so if I need something right now I go to one of those. Bass pro has stuff too if there is one near you.

Lately I've been ordering hooks and beads from Allen.

Here is a thread from another forum that had a decent list of online retailers. Not sure how up to date it is anymore. LINK

Some items can be found cheaper at craft stores.

Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:03 am to
quote:

Videos are great, but you will learn faster if you have someone to watch and help you.


I had a buddy show me the most basic stuff like getting thread on the hook, whip finishing, ect...

The rest has been youtube vids. OP, if you want flies for trout check out Tightline Productions on vimeo. This video just came out a month or two ago and I love it : March Sampler.. I could watch that one all day but it's not a tying instruction video.

quote:

Buy the materials you need, not a kit


Agree here - I almost bought a kit but my fishing bud convinced me otherwise and I'm glad he did. I look at what I have now vs those kits and I would have had a bunch of crap I never used.

quote:

I scrounge for lots of mine.


Yep. Birds I shoot in the fall are good for feathers. There's a gamefarm near here that raises pheasants and I just drop by there for pheasant tails. Never scrounged for dubbing material though. Also some feather packs you have to buy (like if you wanted Hungarian partridge) unless you're doing some oddball hunting.

For some flies where I'm not concerned about bulkiness I just use regular thread - lot of times you can get good deals on thread at Jo-Anns and other craft stores. I bought a lot of beads and 32ga. brass wire spools from there too. For flies that require a smoother profile or I need a lot more strength in the thread then IMO using GSP (gel spun polyethylene) is the only way to go - it is more expensive though.

Make sure and find Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails nail polish. It's clear and works just as well as any head cement.

Your SO may give you funny looks when you start shopping with her at the craft store but you can def. get some good deals.

Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:07 am to
Not sure about their fly material, but I got all of my stuff for inline spinners at Barlow's Tackle. Good prices over there.

LINK
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4205 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:09 am to
Thanks for all the advice guys. I've got a bunch of good stuff to go off of now. I'm going to start buying stuff when I get back in town from Cocodrie.

As for the type of fishing it will be Saltwater for redfish. I might bring my fly rod on some family trips up north and stuff like that but it will be mostly saltwater.

I'm really looking forward to getting into this hobby
Posted by SouthboundTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
1070 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:13 am to
Orvis offers two different fly tying classes for people just starting out. I think the first one is just a basic wooly bugger and the more advanced one is for tying saltwater patterns.

These guys are right though, the essentials are a vise, bobbin, and scissors. The guys at orvis are really good about telling you what materials you will need to get started. That's what I did when I was first starting out.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7981 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Get a quality fly tying vise.....Renzetti, they are expensive but well worth the cost.

LINK

They are located about 35 miles east of Orlando in Titusville......Andy & Lily are great people who give a great deal back to the community....especially to survivors of breast cancer




I drove by that road/place several times last week on my way to KSC. Hmmm..going back in a couple weeks...they have counter sales as well or just catalog/mail order?
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:18 am to
quote:

I'm really looking forward to getting into this hobby


Can be addictive once you start hammering them on flies you tied. Just takes the experience to a new level imo. If you're unsure/unhappy with the way a fly looks then I always get a razor blade and cut it all off to not waste the hook. If you don't like it you either won't fish it at all or won't fish it confidently.

On hooks - I would get a few cheaper ones to start out with but likely need some quality ones for saltwater/ big redfish. 2-3x heavy are what I use for steelhead - anything just standard, 1x heavy will bend out with a quickness if I get a 15 lber on. There are hook deals to be had on amazon.

If you already know what flies to use then you can just search those videos in youtube. You'll likely be able to make a list of materials from the videos and hopefully many of the materials will be similar/same. Most every tying video lists what all they use before the actual instruction starts.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:20 am to
Do I sense an OB fly swap in the near future??

I tie on a Regal. I like it's simplicity but any vice in that price range is going to be a good vice. Avoid anything in a kit if possible. The only tools I use besides a bobbin and scissors are a bodkin and a UV light for head cement. I don't mess around with hackle pliers, we really don't palmer much hackle in saltwater flies anyway, or whip finisher. Both are nice to have but not necessary.

See if you can get in on one of the Orvis tying classes or look up the fly fishing clubs, they have free tying nights. You will learn a lot from just a few minutes with someone and it will save you months of frustration. There are lots of little tricks to getting the right amount of material.

The biggest mistake people make is using too much material and too much thread.

Post up some of your creations when you get started
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:21 am to
This is one thing I really want to learn, just don't have the time to devote to it. I like going watch the guys do it at Little River Outfitters.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4646 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:22 am to
I used to tie all the time. Of course, I used to fish all the time as well, which I don't do as much. When I had children, I had to start putting my fly tying station away to keep them from getting into it. I've never really gotten back into it, even though they're now old enough that I could leave my tying stuff out (heck, they're old enouugh to start tying themselves now).

I may have to set up a permanent tying station soon. Trying to get all the stuff out and put it away every time I want to tie just doesn't encourage tying on a regular basis.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:37 am to
You are going to need bigger hooks than I suggested. I was thinking rainbow and brown trout flies.
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4205 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Do I sense an OB fly swap in the near future??



I'm thinking that could be a good possibility! I'm going to orvis this weekend to buy my rod and pick up the basic materials I need to start tying and then I will start buying more things based on what I need for certain flies. I have a feeling I'm about to spend a lot of money
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