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re: 30-30 Deer Hunters
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:17 pm to Clames
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:17 pm to Clames
It's definitely not a better finish for any situation except cost. Blued steel holds up very well. Parkerized steel is fuzzy and rusts like hell the first few times it sees moisture. Bluing only wears off in high wear places where rust isn't a concern anyway.
I'm not against cheap rifles or anything, but let's not act like it's an acceptable alternative to blued steel. The shits nasty.
I'm not against cheap rifles or anything, but let's not act like it's an acceptable alternative to blued steel. The shits nasty.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:57 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Got a old one that I paid $40 for. The guy that had it before couldn't hit the side of a barn with it. Worked up a hand load of 130gr hollow points and killed 6 deer the first season with it.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:19 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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It's definitely not a better finish for any situation except cost.
It is a better finish for something that can be knocked around. Blued steel is a tiny fraction of a millimeter thick, this stuff is thicker and holds up better than any blued firearm I own.
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Parkerized steel is fuzzy and rusts like hell the first few times it sees moisture.
Except this isn't a parkerized finish either and Parkerizing is damned sure a more protective finish than bluing.
[Quote]I'm not against cheap rifles or anything, but let's not act like it's an acceptable alternative to blued steel. The shits nasty.[quote]
Nitriding isn't expensive is about the same visual characteristics as some black oxide treatments yet no one here will state it isn't superior to any blued steel.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:35 pm to Clames
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better finish for something that can be knocked around.
What do y'all do to y'all rifles?
I bring my Marlin into nasty arse muddy swamp. I hunt with it. It's been dropped in the mud. Yes I hunt in the rain with it too. It isn't rusting.
All I was saying, why don't they make them like they used to. I think you misunderstood that I want a show piece or something. It's fine. I already have a good one and if I need another for one of my sons I'll just get an older used one.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:40 pm to upgrade
I have a marlin 30-30 that my dad bought from his best friend just a few years before his friend died. He gave it to me as a Christmas gift when I was around 15yr old. It's pretty much the only gun I hunt with. If I take any bolt action larger caliber I'm constantly thinking about how much heavier it is. So unless I expect to be shooting 150yrds or more you can bet I have the 30-30.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 10:58 pm to Tiger 79
Hunted with my pops old marlin 3030 last year and killed a doe. It's a neat little gun I'll be using it more often.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:06 am to upgrade
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It isn't rusting.
Won't rust with the new finish either and needs even less attention.
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All I was saying, why don't they make them like they used to.
Research the Marlin company. The way they used to be made was by a relatively small cadre of machinists and very old fashioned equipment. Equipment that was outdated, poorly maintained, and required the person operating it to be extremely familiar with its quirks and knowing when the tooling was worn or needed adjustment. Marlin rifles that actually made it out of the factory were good because they were usually hand finished to fit because the machining process couldn't be relied upon to make properly dimensioned parts one after the other. The finishing process was similarly fraught with problems so the ones that made it through usually were hand picked while the rest were refinished or scrapped. If Marlin tried to make them like they used to, they'd be out of business in short order.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 6:50 am to Clames
Just curious, anybody have a Mossberg 30-30?? Are they any good?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:25 am to Hammertime
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IIRC, the 336s took a shite as of late. Is that right? I got mine in the late 90s, and it has been perfect
My dad has a new 357 Marlin lever action and it has been perfect.
One negative on the Model 94 at least the old one I have is it ejects from the top making mounting an optic difficult. I think the new ones eject differently.
336 would be better if scoped I think. Could be wrong.
What about Henry? Do they make a 30-30? I've been really impressed with every Henry I've shot. Their actions seem so damned smooth.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:41 am to DeoreDX
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:59 am to Tiger 79
Check the Hornady American Whitetail 150gr. They have been more accurate than the Core-Lokts and don't come with the problems of the Leverevolutions, or whatever they're called.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:38 am to DownSouthJukin
I need to kill one with my Winchester 94 Trapper. It's a badass gun with 16" barrel.
I've always shot core lokts 150 gr out of my 30-30s. Never any issues
I've always shot core lokts 150 gr out of my 30-30s. Never any issues
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:27 pm to Slickback
I admit my #1 thick woods gun is my 1895 in 45-70, but I do carry the 30-30 from time to time. 150 grain core-lokts have worked well in it. Never killed a deer with it but it has dropped several pigs.
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