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re: 30-30 Deer Hunters

Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:17 pm to
It's definitely not a better finish for any situation except cost. Blued steel holds up very well. Parkerized steel is fuzzy and rusts like hell the first few times it sees moisture. Bluing only wears off in high wear places where rust isn't a concern anyway.

I'm not against cheap rifles or anything, but let's not act like it's an acceptable alternative to blued steel. The shits nasty.
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:57 pm to
Got a old one that I paid $40 for. The guy that had it before couldn't hit the side of a barn with it. Worked up a hand load of 130gr hollow points and killed 6 deer the first season with it.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16572 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

It's definitely not a better finish for any situation except cost.


It is a better finish for something that can be knocked around. Blued steel is a tiny fraction of a millimeter thick, this stuff is thicker and holds up better than any blued firearm I own.

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Parkerized steel is fuzzy and rusts like hell the first few times it sees moisture.


Except this isn't a parkerized finish either and Parkerizing is damned sure a more protective finish than bluing.

[Quote]I'm not against cheap rifles or anything, but let's not act like it's an acceptable alternative to blued steel. The shits nasty.[quote]

Nitriding isn't expensive is about the same visual characteristics as some black oxide treatments yet no one here will state it isn't superior to any blued steel.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13028 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

better finish for something that can be knocked around.


What do y'all do to y'all rifles?
I bring my Marlin into nasty arse muddy swamp. I hunt with it. It's been dropped in the mud. Yes I hunt in the rain with it too. It isn't rusting.

All I was saying, why don't they make them like they used to. I think you misunderstood that I want a show piece or something. It's fine. I already have a good one and if I need another for one of my sons I'll just get an older used one.
Posted by MotorBoater
Hammond
Member since Sep 2010
1677 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:40 pm to
I have a marlin 30-30 that my dad bought from his best friend just a few years before his friend died. He gave it to me as a Christmas gift when I was around 15yr old. It's pretty much the only gun I hunt with. If I take any bolt action larger caliber I'm constantly thinking about how much heavier it is. So unless I expect to be shooting 150yrds or more you can bet I have the 30-30.
Posted by Broyota2
Member since Nov 2010
13051 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 10:58 pm to
Hunted with my pops old marlin 3030 last year and killed a doe. It's a neat little gun I'll be using it more often.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16572 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:06 am to
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It isn't rusting.


Won't rust with the new finish either and needs even less attention.

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All I was saying, why don't they make them like they used to.


Research the Marlin company. The way they used to be made was by a relatively small cadre of machinists and very old fashioned equipment. Equipment that was outdated, poorly maintained, and required the person operating it to be extremely familiar with its quirks and knowing when the tooling was worn or needed adjustment. Marlin rifles that actually made it out of the factory were good because they were usually hand finished to fit because the machining process couldn't be relied upon to make properly dimensioned parts one after the other. The finishing process was similarly fraught with problems so the ones that made it through usually were hand picked while the rest were refinished or scrapped. If Marlin tried to make them like they used to, they'd be out of business in short order.
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 6:50 am to
Just curious, anybody have a Mossberg 30-30?? Are they any good?
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4053 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:25 am to
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IIRC, the 336s took a shite as of late. Is that right? I got mine in the late 90s, and it has been perfect


My dad has a new 357 Marlin lever action and it has been perfect.

One negative on the Model 94 at least the old one I have is it ejects from the top making mounting an optic difficult. I think the new ones eject differently.

336 would be better if scoped I think. Could be wrong.

What about Henry? Do they make a 30-30? I've been really impressed with every Henry I've shot. Their actions seem so damned smooth.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4053 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:41 am to
Good comparison between the 94, 336, Mossberg, and Henry.

LINK
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
27256 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:59 am to
Check the Hornady American Whitetail 150gr. They have been more accurate than the Core-Lokts and don't come with the problems of the Leverevolutions, or whatever they're called.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27681 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:38 am to
I need to kill one with my Winchester 94 Trapper. It's a badass gun with 16" barrel.

I've always shot core lokts 150 gr out of my 30-30s. Never any issues
Posted by ducksnbass
Member since Apr 2014
754 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:27 pm to
I admit my #1 thick woods gun is my 1895 in 45-70, but I do carry the 30-30 from time to time. 150 grain core-lokts have worked well in it. Never killed a deer with it but it has dropped several pigs.
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