re: .270 Win Short Mag

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I've got burris zee rings and a Redfield revolution scope. The rings are great and the scope is pretty good. But I'm ready to upgrade.

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There is a new line of scopes that come out a few years ago called Vortex scopes. Check them out when you go to upgrade. I have owned Leupold, Burris, Zeiss, Nikon, and I have never seen one as crisp and clear as these Vortex scopes. I've never owned a Swarovski scope but I will take a Vortex over the others I named. When I bought my new 270wsm today I had the extra money to top it with any scope I wanted and I ended up putting a 6-14x50 illuminated reticle Vortex Viper on it. Best scope I've ever looked thru so far.

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Prove it

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This. You get only about 200 fps faster with same grain but it also requires 2 extra inces (22 vs 24) against a standard .270 win. Ammo cost, barrel life, and recoil included, the .270wsm is a worse choice. It isn't a bad choice but looking at all of these factors, it is no better than a .270 at least not in the manner people describe it.

I agree with you 100%. Short mags are good marketing. Nothing else.

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Mine kicks like a mule even with the BOSS/muzzle brake.

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I hate muzzle brakes. Is it really necessary in a 270 WSM? Your rifle must weigh 2 lbs if so.

I for one never have. I usually try to get as close as possible. Probably longest shot at 275 yards

I killed a deer at 320 yds one time. It took 4 shots and finally hit it on the 4th shot. I was shooting a 300 mag though. I was about 16

I've killed lots of deer in the 300-350 range. I'm talking at least 15-20 deer. My lanes are 375yds long, I have flags up at 200 and at 300yds for judging distance. I have overhanging ledges on my stand with big sand filled shooting bags on each ledge took lock my rifle down. If you have a good rifle, scope, shooting bags, and know what ur rifle is doing at those ranges then 375yd shot isn't that difficult on a standing broadside buck deer. That's a big target.

Now my new stand is in a huge fresh cutover and I can see 500yds. I plan on taking some 500yd shots and want a rifle that can do it. That's why I bought the 270WSM and topped it off with a high end scope with ballistic turrets.

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Will you explain to me why that's so funny? Am I dreaming to hope it's has some knockdown left at 500yds?

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The whole knockdown power thing is false. Knockdown power would be true if bullets dumped all of their energy into a target (imagine it flattening against a target with all of its energy, not going through). So knockdown power is just a false idea. Sure, some bullets carry more energy but that doesn't really translate into its ability to knock something down. A regular .270 has plenty of energy to dump a deer at 500, hell, .243 rifles have been used to take deer at that range. Remember, this is all coming from someone who owns a WSM cartridge.

This thread has derailed but I got a tkka t3 in 270 last year. I shoot the Barnes vortex lead free rounds. I've killed 3 deer so far and they have gone a total of 15 yards after the shot. Live that round and rifle.