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re: Govm shutting down BP
Posted on 7/15/10 at 7:03 pm to GREENHEAD22
Posted on 7/15/10 at 7:03 pm to GREENHEAD22
US Constitution: "No Ex Post Facto Law", he is and they all are dumbasses if they signed on to this bill.
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Posted on 7/15/10 at 8:54 pm to CITWTT
Cool let's kill BP so they can't ever make the money needed to restore the gulf
Awesome idea
Awesome idea
Posted on 7/16/10 at 8:36 am to offshoretrash
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Once the well kicked there was nothing anyone could do it was too late, the BOP didn't work because of drill pipe and casing in the stack and as soon as the rig exploded they had no power to disconnect.
Sorry to interrupt. Good stuff in this thread.
I'm trying to learn more about this and what actually happened, so can someone explain to me what a "kick" is when speaking about a well blowout?
Thanks in advance.
This post was edited on 7/16/10 at 8:42 am
Posted on 7/16/10 at 8:58 am to Tiger Voodoo
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what a "kick" is when speaking about a well blowout?
a kick is when the well decides to burp gas back to surface.
basically.
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:12 am to tigerdup07
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a kick is when the well decides to burp gas back to surface.
basically.
Thanks. And I take it that is a sign that something bad is happening down below? As in, shut it down or things are about to go to hell?
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:17 am to offshoretrash
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BOP failed due to the casing hanger stuck in the stack from the well coming in
i know this has been the predominant theory for a while now, but the fact that the capping stack is holding full shut-in pressure in excess of the burst rating of the outer casing strings leads me to believe the well was flowing up the production casing through the float equipment the whole time.
and i agree 100% w/ your other statement, you shut the well in, then call to tell someone what you did. never ask permission to shut in, since there is no concern higher than maintaining well control.
This post was edited on 7/16/10 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/16/10 at 9:27 am to oilfieldtiger
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you shut the well in, then call to tell someone what you did. never ask permission to shut in, since there is no concern higher than maintaining well control.
and when you call, ask them to git you a boat or a helo, or a blue ribbon.
Posted on 7/16/10 at 10:02 am to jeff967
Id rather have someone pissed at me then be dead any day of the week.
Posted on 7/16/10 at 10:09 am to GREENHEAD22
oilfieldtiger
Are we for sure that the BOP was faulty before they took the kick, and if so what was wrong with it? Confused on the whole situation with the rubber sealers coming up in the return mud. Had someone tell me it was bc they accidentally shut the BOP when pulling pipe and it tore the seals. But that doesn't make sense bc they close the annulars, pull pipe until a joint hits then close rams, to insure that there isnt a joint in the rams.
Are we for sure that the BOP was faulty before they took the kick, and if so what was wrong with it? Confused on the whole situation with the rubber sealers coming up in the return mud. Had someone tell me it was bc they accidentally shut the BOP when pulling pipe and it tore the seals. But that doesn't make sense bc they close the annulars, pull pipe until a joint hits then close rams, to insure that there isnt a joint in the rams.
Posted on 7/16/10 at 2:54 pm to oilfieldtiger
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i know this has been the predominant theory for a while now, but the fact that the capping stack is holding full shut-in pressure in excess of the burst rating of the outer casing strings leads me to believe the well was flowing up the production casing through the float equipment the whole time.
You may be right but I have a hard time believing that the BOPs failed. The only other explaination is something other than drill pipe inside them.
Some of you guys may not understand about well control. I'm far from an expert but the number one rule is catch it early and your chance for killing it goes way up. You let it flow and fill the well bore with gas or oil it will eat you up. This is why there is never nothing said to drillers for closing the BOP at the first sign that something is wrong.
In Deepwater drilling it's even more critical because you have several thousand feet of riser that can fill up with pressure and grow in size as it heads to surface. You have nothing between you and the bop to stop it.
Posted on 7/16/10 at 3:00 pm to offshoretrash
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You may be right but I have a hard time believing that the BOPs failed. The only other explaination is something other than drill pipe inside them.
i guess we'll see when the wellhead and BOP stack are recovered.
Posted on 7/16/10 at 3:22 pm to oilfieldtiger
I bet they never pull them up. when they kill it I bet, they pump cement all the way up and out the new choke line.
Posted on 7/16/10 at 3:55 pm to jeff967
You guys may be interested in this report. There is a lot of speculation and educated guesses in it but I think the author has made an effort to be as factual as possible. A lot of data associated with this disaster are hard to come by. The author is asking for feedback so if the oil pros on here want to send him your comments, I'm sure he'd appreciate the peer review.
LINK [pdf]
LINK [pdf]
Posted on 7/16/10 at 4:19 pm to GREENHEAD22
Any constitutional lawyers think this might be a possible Bill of Attainder?
Posted on 7/17/10 at 7:30 am to MountainTiger
nice to have all that in one spot,
good info in that link, thanks
good info in that link, thanks
Posted on 7/17/10 at 8:02 am to jeff967
a very thorough and informative report.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:29 am to oilfieldtiger
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a very thorough and informative report.
conclusion- transocean had 19 minutes to monitor the riser flow meter and did not.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:45 am to tigerdup07
Is there a bunch of blank pages in it, think my computer is not loading it right.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:46 am to GREENHEAD22
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conclusion- transocean had 19 minutes to monitor the riser flow meter and did not.
Like ive been saying from the get go. This was not just BPs fault.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 9:50 am to GREENHEAD22
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GREENHEAD22
we've been on the same page.
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