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re: Yet another tipping thread

Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:05 am to
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36013 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:05 am to
People wanna talk about things on this site that are trashy, nothing trashier than a bad tipper.
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
13536 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:06 am to
ok so do you tip the bathroom attendant? I mean you practically tip everyone else.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36013 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:09 am to
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ok so do you tip the bathroom attendant?


Only place I've been with a bathroon attendant was a strip club. But I assume you would at a classy place that has one. The whole point of going to a classy place is that it's classy. If you go in the bathroom and there is piss on the floor or toilet paper all over the place, it's not that classy.

You are there to pay for the atmosphere normally, not always just the food. Best steak I every had was at this place on the tennessee/kentucky border off I-24. The place didn't have a NON-smoking section, looked like a nice shack, and the only way you could pay was with cash. fricking awesome steak though... Charlie's I think was the name of it.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 1:13 am
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18665 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:11 am to
It was just an example. I personally do not tip <15%. However, my grandpa does, and I was using it as an example of where the food/beverage cost drive up the meal and tip costs. If you are ordering more expensive menu items, it then causes that tipping percentage to give the waiter a better cut.

Therefore, because we were ordering expensive stuff consistently, his cheap tip likely was still a solid amount based on what other tables may have been ordering.

Also, for that waiter it was a known source of a consistent tip amount. He generally already knew our order, had to spend less time at our table, and still got a decent amount of money.

I'm not saying it was right for him to only get 10%, I just don't think it was a terrible amount of money if you look at it more as being based on the amount of food and drink that he was delivering to our table because we often ordered individually higher priced items.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18665 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:13 am to
quote:

People wanna talk about things on this site that are trashy, nothing trashier than a bad tipper.



Meh, he's 90 years old. He says he has always tipped that way because that's what you are supposed to do. I suspect that in his heyday that was pretty standard.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36013 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:18 am to
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Therefore, because we were ordering expensive stuff consistently, his cheap tip likely was still a solid amount based on what other tables may have been ordering.


See, this is the problem, you can't say... well based on what others ordered and tipped... it's based on what you ordered and tipped... if you can afford to order the pricier stuff, you should be able to tip for it. I'm no OT baller, I go to a place and drink 1.50 natty drafts on the reg... but I tip 50% usually for them cause they are super cheap.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18665 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:29 am to
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See, this is the problem, you can't say... well based on what others ordered and tipped... it's based on what you ordered and tipped... if you can afford to order the pricier stuff, you should be able to tip for it. I'm no OT baller, I go to a place and drink 1.50 natty drafts on the reg... but I tip 50% usually for them cause they are super cheap.



Right, I understand that. Once again I do not tip <15%. My only point was that in that particular case the guy wasn't exactly getting $3 on a $100+ bill. He was still getting a decent amount of money.

When I go to a bar I typically tip $1 per drink. If it is a $2 beer the bar tender is getting a $50% tip for literally handing me a beer. Later that night he serves me a bourbon and coke at $7. That dollar tip is now slightly less than 15%, and he in fact used a little more effort. Yet, you average it out and the bartender is still getting greater than a 20% tip. If I open a tab I instead just pay straight percentage of the bill in the 15-20% range.

Nevertheless, it was never about my grandpa choosing to be cheap because he didn't care. He flat out is cheap with his tips because he is still under the notion that it is still acceptable to only tip 10%. Again, in my example the waiter still made decent money off our table because of what was ordered. Also again, family has often stepped in and helped with tip when he buys dinner.

Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18665 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:34 am to
quote:

TIP FOR YOUR TIME


This actually makes a hell of a lot more sense.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:38 am to
quote:

Therefore how can I tip if this not an option when I don't carry cash?


I can't imagine not having any cash in my wallet.

and I always keep $5 - $10 in small bills to be certain I can tip.

Nothing says I appreciate you taking care of me better than a tip.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36013 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:41 am to
quote:

This actually makes a hell of a lot more sense.



in a world where people wanna play on their phones and take pics of their food it definitely does... saw a article awhile back about a restaurant that was wondering why their wait times to get a table were longer, but they weren't really making more money than they used too. They did some video surveillance and realized customers where spending like 20 extra minutes or more because of taking pics and playing on their phone instead of looking at the menu, being prepared to order, and then eating without having to share it and their experience with a world that doesn't really give a shite.

I asked my friends who work in the service industry if this really happened that often... they said.. oh yeah... all the time.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 1:44 am
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18665 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:42 am to
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I can't imagine not having any cash in my wallet.



I used to carry cash, but then I moved to the north gates of LSU in college. While they had nice new apartments there, they also backed up to the ghetto.

After getting hit up for money weekly by various vagrants, I wanted to have a clear conscience when I said no to them. So I quit carrying cash.

I dubbed their tactics as "polite mugging" because they would approach you very creepily, and you felt like you needed to give them a dollar or two just to leave you alone.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36013 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:45 am to
quote:

Nothing says I appreciate you taking care of me better than a tip.



Very true, I don't even work in job that people tip you for.. but I have a customer that always tips me... means a lot.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 1:46 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36013 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:49 am to
quote:

I used to carry cash, but then I moved to the north gates of LSU in college. While they had nice new apartments there, they also backed up to the ghetto.

After getting hit up for money weekly by various vagrants, I wanted to have a clear conscience when I said no to them. So I quit carrying cash.

I dubbed their tactics as "polite mugging" because they would approach you very creepily, and you felt like you needed to give them a dollar or two just to leave you alone.



So instead you run a card for every 5 dollar or less purchase... The small businesses of the world hate you btw. Why don't you just tell the vagrants you only have a card, and use your cash to keep small businesses from having to pay to get money for selling you something.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18665 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:55 am to
Perhaps, but we're becoming a cashless society. At true small businesses, I generally try and use my debit card if I have to make a small purchase without cash. They at least used to not really have fees like a credit card.

Honestly, now I no longer live in that area, but I find it more of a hassle to go by the ATM. Cards are much easier because I can use online banking to track my money. I find that much more accurate than trying to track receipts for every little purchase.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36013 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 2:06 am to
quote:

They at least used to not really have fees like a credit card.



We get charged more for debit than we do for credit... ask if you care.
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5054 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 2:34 am to
At the end of the day, its $3 for christ sake.

If you get nagged about that I hate to think what your chit chat is
Posted by HunterGomez
B.R., LA
Member since Sep 2004
1709 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 2:57 am to
Another case for tipping the after tax price is because the IRS accounts for after tax total sales for each server so by tipping for pre tax sales your server is forced to declare tips every night as a percentage of total sales not pre tax sales.

To be fair the IRS only requires servers to declare 10% of their cash sales(while credit tips are automatically figured in) so once again, it more or less evens it out.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 3:06 am to
quote:

Humble brag and you're cheap for not tipping 20%
If you are paying for a 265 dinner you can afford 20%


Yeah this is pretty spot... If you're spending 265 on dinner at least 20% would be sufficient..
Posted by Topisawtiger
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3488 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 3:27 am to
Back in the day (yeah I am an old fart) tips were at 10%, then went to 15%, and now the standard is 20%. What has caused them to rise to this level and will they go to 25% next? And no this is not a complaint, I always over tip unless the service just sucks. Just curious who sets the rules/standards.
Posted by Ortho Reb
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2011
9466 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 3:36 am to
quote:

Humble brag and you're cheap for not tipping 20%



He did, you don't tip on the tax.

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