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re: Yearly Teachers are Complaining about their Vacation Being Over

Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:59 am to
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:59 am to
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Not to mention that teachers don't get to frick around on the OT all day like many people that "work a full year" do
I can give you a list of screen names that are teachers
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:59 am to
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Not to mention that teachers don't get to frick around on the OT all day like many people that "work a full year" do




Anddd end thread.



I can't say shite, I spend at least 4 hours a day on here and delegate my workload to coworkers

Which is why I interviewed for a promoted position this morning and they did not

Act like an underling, get treated like an underling.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:59 am to
nurses would definitely be #2

which really should say its not really the profession, its just women that complain alot
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:59 am to
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I can give you a list of screen names that are teachers


Go for it. Also show me when they make the majority of their posts.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:59 am to
I'm very much looking forward to going back. Got a new job in a new city. Got the hell out of Auburn. Going to be a great year.


Sorry you don't get 75 days off a year like me bro.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:59 am to
I agree nurses are just as bad....the female ones anyway
Posted by Haydo
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:04 am to
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Act like an underling, get treated like an underling


Spoken in true Archer form. Well done with the avatar.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:07 am to
You say this like its a bad thing. Honestly, I have to laugh at the suckers breaking their bodies, getting fat, and neglecting their family working 50, 60, 70, 80 hrs a week.

Not a teacher but just saying.
Posted by kfont28
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:10 am to
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Posted by Geauxld Finger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:16 am to
lets be realistic herre. Often times those teachers are bringing home papers to grae, reports to read, and so forth. Also teachers are in school about 2-3 weeks after school lets out recorrding grades, and cleaining shite up. They go back the first week of August to begin lesson plans and starting up the next school year. So in essence they are off for a month and a two weeks.

Asolid wage for a teacher is 48k-55k and up if they are more qualified.

I like how most of you assholes think this is an 8-5 job where you leave your work at work. That's laughable. Go teach for a couple of weeks and see how you feel.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:18 am to
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Half of you people claiming it's so easy would hate to deal with kids who don't care about you at all for 40k a year.


Didn't read the whole thread yet, but this shite cracks me up.

First of all, their salary directly corresponds to the scarcity of people that are interested/qualified for the job. As of 2015, $40k is all it takes to entice people to take the job.

Second of all, most teachers in 2015 are retiring after 25-30 years on the job, and they're receiving ~$2700-$3300/month in pension benefits. That is the equivalent of social security benefits and $450,000 401k in the private sector. Cry me a fricking river.
Posted by WhoDatNC
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:19 am to
They have a right to gripe. They are about to deal with a bunch of ahole kids and some crazy parents for the next 10 months.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:19 am to
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I'd say most people get a month or month and a half of time off



No way most people get 4-6 weeks.

I can technically take off whatever I want. But I don't, because my schedule doesn't allow it. That's how it is for a lot of professionals I know, where "vacation days" don't really have any meaning.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:20 am to
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Cry me a fricking river

I've read the whole thread. It's the non-teachers who are doing most of the crying.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:20 am to
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I can technically take off whatever I want. But I don't, because my schedule doesn't allow it. That's how it is for a lot of professionals I know, where "vacation days" don't really have any meaning.


Teachers can't really take off while school is in session either. That goes both ways.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:21 am to
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I like how most of you assholes think this is an 8-5 job where you leave your work at work. That's laughable. Go teach for a couple of weeks and see how you feel.



I doubt many people would shite on teachers if teachers didn't bring it up. I like teachers, I like the idea of teaching.

But if you hear them bitch, you'd almost think it wasn't a gig you can do with a mediocre bachelor's degree, that pays decently well for something that is pseudo-charity work, and that they didn't know all of this going into it.
Posted by Cali-to-Death Valley
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:23 am to
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Their job is to teach kids a subject. Not diagnose their mental health, comment on their private home life,
I bet 95% of all teachers grades 1-8 would agree with you. Unfortunately (I can only speak for California where my daughter is an English teacher at an inner-city middle school where over 50% of her students do not speak English and a large percentage of her students have parents that are incarcerated or just do not exist in their children's life) the state's broken education and mental health systems and lack of parental leadership has dumped this right in the teacher's laps.

In many cases teachers spend way more time with their students than the student's parents do, thus making the teachers both the first and last line of defense for these students when they start heading down that slippery slope. In quite a few school districts in California teachers are also expected to use their own money to purchase classroom supplies and donate time (without extra pay) to help special programs to be staffed). Also most teachers that I have been around spend a large part of their summer vacation (which in most California school districts is just about 7 weeks) working on their lesson plans (without pay) for the following school year.

One thing I do agree with is that those who are teachers have chose this profession, it was not forced upon them. They needed know what they were getting into before they accepted the job. I also think that as with any profession or job, those who view it as their calling do the least amount of bitching and the most amount of working.

Finally, there is one thing that I have found extremely interesting being around my daughter and other teachers from the school she teaches at; is that the majority of them detest the tenure system. Granted as with too many schools in troubled or impoverished areas, the teaching staff at her school probably averages 12 years or less time on the job, yet the majority of them believe that teachers should be rewarded by merit and not tenure (Teachers receive tenure usually after their 3rd year).

Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:24 am to
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Teachers can't really take off while school is in session either. That goes both ways.



I hear you, but the ones I know are going to get a full week in Oct, a full week in Nov, 2 weeks in Dec/Jan, and a full week in Mar/April. Meanwhile, I'll string together a day on the end of a long weekend and try and make a vacation out of it. I'm not complaining, it's just how it goes, but that's my reaction when listening to one of my teacher friends complain that they're about to go 2 full months without a vacation day.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:28 am to
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I hear you, but the ones I know are going to get a full week in Oct, a full week in Nov, 2 weeks in Dec/Jan, and a full week in Mar/April


What's the full week in October for? And do you think they don't do any work during all that time?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28091 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:33 am to
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lets be realistic herre. Often times those teachers are bringing home papers to grae, reports to read, and so forth. Also teachers are in school about 2-3 weeks after school lets out recorrding grades, and cleaining shite up. They go back the first week of August to begin lesson plans and starting up the next school year. So in essence they are off for a month and a two weeks.


According to their pay scale info, not true. 1500 hours a year seems to be on the high end. That's like working 30 hours a week or getting 3 months off a year.
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