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WWII aficionados- were PT boats an effective part of the war effort?

Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:29 pm
I've been re-reading PT 109 (45-50 years afew I first read it)

Do you consider the PT boats to be an effective and valuable part of allied assets in either theater?
Posted by Adam4LSU
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:34 pm to
huge in support ops
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:36 pm to
There was a PT boat base on Tulagi which was right across from Guadalcanal. They operated in Iron Bottom sound and harassed jap transports.

PT 59 destroyed a sub
PT 40 destroyed a destroyer

I just came back from the Nimitz Pacific museum in Fredericksburg. They have a section dedicated to PT boats and what they accomplished.
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:39 pm to
kennedy should have been court martialed for what happened but because daddy had friends in high places he got a medal.

PT boats played a big role in the med, Philippines, and solomons for sure though.
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:48 pm to
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I just came back from the Nimitz Pacific museum in Fredericksburg.


That sounds like a place I would visit. The Pacific theatre does not get as much publicity as Europe, but I've always been fascinated by it because my dad served there and would tell us a few stories.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:53 pm to
Paging WW2 Collector
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by sledgehammer
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:02 pm to
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That sounds like a place I would visit

It was a fantastic museum full of interesting artifacts. My favorite was an authentic letter Eugene Sledge wrote his parents after the Battle of Peleliu and a door from the USS Arizona that welders had cut a hole through to see if there were survivors beneath. I spent six hours in the museum and could’ve spent even more time inside, but I wanted to check out the outdoor portion before it closed. I thought it was just as good as the WW2 museum in New Orleans.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:10 pm to
My Dad built them, still have his medal!
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:11 pm to

Some of the most agile and effective ships in the war period.
Posted by WWII Collector
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:31 pm to
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awe shucks.... Thank You for the shout out though.

Honestly... I have spent most of my study and research in the ETO.. and here lately a lot more about N Afrika and the Italian Campaign.

But flying off the cuff shall I say... I would have to say that the PT boat role was very limited... Efficient yes, for what it's role is. But I think that you have to give the Majority or credit to the Carriers of course... and especially the Destroyers.

The Destroyers played two major roles. Convoy Protection from U-Boats in the Atlantic.. and Providing outer aircraft protection for the Carrier fleets in the Pacific.

But of course they are larger ships... But when it comes down to smaller Naval Vessels. The Higgins Boat has to come forward as the real winner over the PT boat.

I was reading last night believe or not that the US Army had command of many a ship. More than the Navy really wanted them to.

Collecting wish... I keep searching for a Higgins Boat Employee Lapel Pin like one of the posters here showed one day... It would be a GREAT find... But I am afraid that they are very few and far between, if at all,.



This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 8:36 pm
Posted by BigDropper
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:01 pm to


EB was great in M'sN, but I grew up on Airwolf...
Posted by lsewwww
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:23 pm to
MacArthur should got his moneys worth getting off the phillipines. Quite the story. The lead boat LTCDR was quite the guy

I'd love to have a boat with one packard V12, let alone 3. quite the hotrod.
I dotn agree with Kennedy being court marshalled. His actions before the crash are debatable, but his actions after the crash are not. It was sound decision making island hopping and testing limits of physical endurance with some of those swims. In crocdile and shark populated waters.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:43 pm to
Fun fact: PT boat commanders were disproportionately Ivy Leaguers like JFK, whose connections got them their own "yacht," when most officers of their rank were toiling anonymously as a lower link in the chain of command on some ship.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:44 pm to
They Were Expendable

An often overlooked war movie about the PT boats in the early war. John Ford directing, The Duke and Robert Montgomery starring.
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

Collecting wish... I keep searching for a Higgins Boat Employee Lapel Pin like one of the posters here showed one day... It would be a GREAT find... But I am afraid that they are very few and far between, if at all,.



i have my great grandfathers, but you are not getting it he worked in the city park plant
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:54 pm to
In the right circumstances, yes. Early in the war they were hampered by shitty torpedoes, as was the case with both torpedo bombers, destroyers, and subs.

They came into their own during the Solomons Campaign where they had a degree of success in interdiction raids against the “Tokyo Express”. The Navy built upon this success by employing them against the supply lines of other Japanese held islands which were primarily supplied via barges.
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 9:55 pm
Posted by warlock1974
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:55 pm to
Can you explain what Kennedy did that should have led to a court martial? I have never heard of this. Thanks.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:59 pm to
Got rammed by a Jap destroyer while his boat was idling along.
I believe he didn't even have all engines engaged
Posted by TigersnJeeps
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 10:05 pm to
I used to have a paperback book from the 50s or 60s on PT Boats in WWII.

It was a great read and covered their roles in the Med and Western Europe as well.

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