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re: Would you shoot Katrina looters with Chris Kyle?

Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20876 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:12 pm to
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thought you were going to explain the difference between robbing someone's home and looting.


There is no difference.

quote:

Lobbing different hypotheticals at me isn't doing anything.


Clearly. For a second I thought you would give me a straight answer.

ETA:Assuming CK was actually there, you think this scenario is impossible?
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260058 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:12 pm to
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don't these people still exist?


Unfortunately. You'll be supporting them until you die
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:16 pm to
Straight answer that has nothing to do with the OP? Sure.

I don't know if I would just straight up shoot them. I would most likely confront them with a weapon trained on them and fire if they had a gun.

What makes the difference between the OP and your hypo is that there are people present in these residences. But you knew that already.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20876 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:18 pm to
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What makes the difference between the OP and your hypo is that there are people present in these residences. But you knew that already.


Did the looters know? Do you think they cared?
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:18 pm to
Impossible? No. Improbable? Yes.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20876 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:19 pm to
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Impossible? No. Improbable? Yes.


So now you think it's possible that maybe he could have been doing the sniping justifiably?

Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:21 pm to
You're going to hang your hat on the improbability that Chris Kyle was sniping looters breaking into homes in a neighborhood?



Hey man, if that's what you want to believe, so be it.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20876 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:22 pm to
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You're going to hang your hat on the improbability that Chris Kyle was sniping looters breaking into homes in a neighborhood?


Ok, let's go a step further. You know there were store owners that stayed in their stores during Katrina right?

Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:23 pm to
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You know there were store owners that stayed in their stores during Katrina right?
I'm sure they did. You think that justifies sniping everyone trying to break into a store? "Well there could have been someone inside."

ETA: I have a hypo for you. Let's say you're out late tonight and drive by a Walgreens at around 1am. You see a guy trying to break into the front doors. Do you feel justified shooting him? There could be someone inside. Unlikely, but maybe.

Since you've based your entire argument on maybe, I don't see why not.

ETA2: That's all the time I've got to play today. Have a good one. Sorry for your friends that were robbed. Ignoring the mental gymnastics it took you to get there, I'm not a looter. I despise thieves.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38758 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:25 pm to
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Yeah, killing innocents is way better.


Lmfao Merica first you racist
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18799 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:28 pm to
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Seems kind of strange and slightly sadistic


kind of strange, slightly sadistic? It's plain arse fricking crazy is what it is. IF, I repeat IF he actually did this, then he probably got what he deserved
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45098 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:28 pm to
Would I shoot just any looters? No I would not but I would not hesitate to shoot a looter who was stealing from me and my family.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57452 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:29 pm to
Didn't he kill himself?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20876 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:31 pm to
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You think that justifies sniping everyone trying to break into a store? "Well there could have been someone inside."


I just have trouble wrapping my brain around the idea that someone on the OT thinks looting is ok, just so long as the store owner isn't there. Why not rob them before and after the storm too? I bet the store owner isn't there then either. .

To answer your question, I wouldn't care if they unloaded. Katrina was a crazy time and chances are they would have been acquitted even if they somehow had brought to trial.

Generally speaking I have zero sympathy for people who break into houses or stores to steal stuff they can't afford or don't want to pay for. Looting then is no different than robbery today.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18799 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:32 pm to
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Didn't he kill himself?



no, he got shot at a range by a PTSD vet outside of ft worth
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:33 pm to
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I just have trouble wrapping my brain around the idea that someone on the OT thinks looting is ok, just so long as the store owner isn't there.
I know I said I was done but I have to respond to this.

Link me saying looting is ok.

Thanks.

ETA: The leaps of logic you're making are laughable. I'm going to play out a quick conversation to show you how laughable.

Me: Do you think drunk drivers should be shot on sight?

You: No.

Me. Oh, so you think drunk driving is ok?

You see that Grand Canyon sized gap between "shot on sight" and "ok", that's where I'm at.

This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38758 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:34 pm to
Personally I always supported the beer looter he has brought be much joy. He took a bad situation and faced it head on best he could.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20876 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

I have a hypo for you. Let's say you're out late tonight and drive by a Walgreens at around 1am. You see a guy trying to break into the front doors. Do you feel justified shooting him? There could be someone inside. Unlikely, but maybe.

Since you've based your entire argument on maybe, I don't see why not.

ETA2: That's all the time I've got to play today. Have a good one. Sorry for your friends that were robbed. Ignoring the mental gymnastics it took you to get there, I'm not a looter. I despise thieves.


As someone else pointed out the difference is that you can call the police if Katrina hadn't just took place. It's typically their job to handle it. That's the whole reason there was looting to begin with. Granted NOLA is going to NOLA, so there's that.

Likewise .
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18799 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

I just have trouble wrapping my brain around the idea that someone on the OT thinks looting is ok, just so long as the store owner isn't there.


let's say you have a family, no food, surrounded by water, no way to get out of the city, and the grocery store down the street has food, and nobody is there. i don't believe for one second you're going to let your wife and kids go hungry.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38758 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 3:38 pm to
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let's say you have a family, no food, surrounded by water, no way to get out of the city, and the grocery store down the street has food, and nobody is there. i don't believe for one second you're going to let your wife and kids go hungry.



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