re: Would it have been better if Germany would have won WW1? The First One.

War has fueled many technological advances. And while the holocaust was an awful part of history, it did lead to many medical advances. You can sit here and do this with absolutely any historical event just based of the butterfly effect. I'm not gonna get into details because I love my job and if I started going further into detail, I'd sit here and type a novel.

Might come back and edit to elaborate.

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assumption

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Everything in this thread is going to be an assumption. We can just disregard that retort.

I'll reiterate. The United States is too well situated to not be a major world power. Too big with too many resources. The World Wars turned the US into a major world power much more quickly than it would have naturally happened, but it was going to happen anyway.

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sure, Unless you were a Jew, black, gay, disabled, Slavic, etc......

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What the frick are you talking about?

Can you people not tell the difference between a 1 and a 2?

WWI, bruh. WWI.

Addendum: The Nazis didn't really fire up the concentration camps to a major degree until '43 or so, when they realized they were fricked. Had they won 'early', I think there would have been a different outcome for the prisoners, but not likely a rosy one.

You know what? Next time you're hung over, I hope someone pisses in your Cheerios too.

I know, and I deserved it.

I doubt Britain would have ever surrendered but they most likely would have negotiated a truce.

The Depression was not caused by WWI. It was caused by piss poor financial management policies within the large banks leading to overleveraged borrowers, currency shortages, and stock market crashes.

We were dangerously close to repeating history in 2008 FWIW

Germany would not have conquered Russia. The Bolsheviks were well on their way to taking power. Germany would have aided their take over in exchange for advantageous treaty terms.

Ottoman would be toast but I wonder how Europe would have treated the mideast if they were able to focus their attention on it instead of postwar Germany.

There would be NO ISRAEL leading to generations of muslims feeling "oppressed" and fueling terror.

Keeps the United States out of becoming an interventionist, Imperial imitation. Conceivably prevents the conditions necessary for Bolshevist takeover over of Russia. Spares the destruction of European order and the roughly 100 years of political stability among the major European powers, save the Frano-Prussian War. Preserves the legitimacy of authoritarian rule in several of the major European powers.

It doesn't preclude potential major war outbreaks amongst the major powers in future scenarios though. Depending on your particular polutical worldview, you may view the potential of this altered geopolitical hypothetical as more or less favorable. Those who think European institutions of power over the world were inherently evil and repressive will be unlikely to see it as a positive. Those who think the collapse of Western power created tremendous instability that exceeded the theoretical positives of independence for colonized nations will be inclined to disagree.

If one looks at it purely from the Western-centric POV, I think the answer is that it almost certainly would have benefited the Western world to either not have engaged in the conflict at all or not have had it end in the de facto unconditional defeat of Germany that it did.