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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:03 am to Pecker
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Much easier to be a nameless, faceless "refugee" who fled without documents.
You realize how easy it would be to cause unimaginable hysteria with just 7-10 of them getting through and procuring small arms with a plan to Shoot up Catholic Churches during Christmas Eve Mass in the Eastern Timezone?
I hope that doesn't happen but it's alot easier than blowing something up. And they could do this without communicating once arriving here.
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 9:05 am
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:04 am to Ace Midnight
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I'm talking about the infiltrators. You really don't see this? You don't see the high percentage of military age males in these photos? Why didn't they fight?
Well if they're infiltrators they can't be refugees, they're merely posing as refugees.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:04 am to Mung
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Engineering student would seem to be the easiest technique
I didn't have any muzzies in my graduating class
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:05 am to Pettifogger
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Well if they're infiltrators they can't be refugees, they're merely posing as refugees.
Language parsing doesn't make the victims of Boston any less dead or maimed.
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 9:06 am
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:07 am to TheOcean
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And if only we had a time machine that could have predicted the two ten year old buys would eventually go back to Europe to get radicalized
I don't think the younger brother ever went back - the older one did and then radicalized the younger.
And you don't see a problem with bringing thousands of them here and spreading them throughout the country?
This is exactly how cancer kills a person.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:08 am to TheOcean
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Asylees =/= refugees. And if only we had a time machine that could have predicted the two ten year old buys would eventually go back to Europe to get radicalized
And if only we could have used our common sense when the Russians told us to look out for these two assholes.
Look, we had good, valid intel on these two and we did nothing but we can somehow properly vet people who have no records to check? Excellent plan.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:08 am to Lou Pai
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"I don't think we should let them all in at once, but I also don't think this is the apocolypse".
What are you going to do with them while you're doing your painstaking vetting process?
And, to save time, why can't you just leave them there?
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:08 am to Ace Midnight
Have you stated exactly why you want to refuse the refugees? Is it just because of religion?
We have around 2 million muslims here right now. Should we deport them, too?
We have around 2 million muslims here right now. Should we deport them, too?
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:09 am to upgrayedd
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Look, we had good, valid intel on these two and we did nothing but we can somehow properly vet people who have no records to check?
We had valid intel when they were < 15 years old?
I don't think you'll find anyone who disagrees that we fricked up after they became radicalized
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:10 am to TheOcean
Yes. We should Abe Lincoln them...
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:11 am to TheOcean
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Have you stated exactly why you want to refuse the refugees?
Because of the risk of ISIS using them as a bridge to bring large numbers of fighter to the United States.
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Is it just because of religion?
No. But Islam is a risk factor in this analysis.
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We have around 2 million muslims here right now.
And if only 1 percent of them are radicalized (and I suspect that number is much, much higher), we already have an enemy division inside the gates. Why do you want to double - treble - quadruple that problem?
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Should we deport them, too?
Any of them involved in radicalization or any sort of violence, whatsoever? Yes (assuming they're not citizens).
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:12 am to usc6158
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You're about a million times more likely to have a terrorist walk straight through customs at JFK than to import one as a refugee.
I truly hope you don't believe this statement.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:12 am to TheOcean
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I don't think you'll find anyone who disagrees that we fricked up after they became radicalized
And you want to increase the chance we frick up again, by bringing thousands more - the exact, precise population that is targeted for radicalization, young Muslim men from SW Asia?
I'm having trouble seeing the good from this. That's all.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:13 am to Ace Midnight
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I'd say take Christians first, women with young children second (and vet them as well - they're increasingly using our own civility against us by utilizing female terrorists), and send the military age males back to fight for their country or fight against ISIS - let them pick the reasoning.
Sadly, I have but one upvote to give you.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:14 am to TheOcean
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We had valid intel when they were < 15 years old?
No we had valid intel leading up to the attacks. The point I'm making is that we didn't treat these two as a valid threat, yet the president's ego is telling him that we can properly vet these refugees (which the FBI director says we can't).
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I don't think you'll find anyone who disagrees that we fricked up after they became radicalized
Yep, and you saw what two motivated individuals can do in a major American city. But, why not send in 10's of thousands more, right?
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:15 am to Mung
quote:You say that as a joke and are trying to make fun of those you agree with inside but hate yourself for doing so, but that is exactly what they want. How can you be so naive about this? Just because you hate republicans so much even though you agree with all their policies? You need an exorcism or something.
becoz they want to kill our freedumb!!!
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:16 am to Ace Midnight
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And you want to increase the chance we frick up again, by bringing thousands more - the exact, precise population that is targeted for radicalization, young Muslim men from SW Asia?
I'm having trouble seeing the good from this. That's all.
He ascribes to the "if we don't take in potential terrorists, we'll cause them to become terrorists" logic which is a giant exercise in philosophical mental masturbation.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:26 am to Ace Midnight
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What are you going to do with them while you're doing your painstaking vetting process?
And, to save time, why can't you just leave them there?
I'm being facetious. You've clearly thought about this issue. I recognize this dude on here and he is always hammering home the point that he has no substantive opinion while calling others lazy or whatever.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:30 am to Salmon
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Would it not be easier to send some radical from Belgium or London as a tourist than try to hide amongst all these scrutinized refugees?
No. To come over as a tourist you need a passport. You have to go through additional screening.
To come over as a refugee, you don't have to do anything but jump in a crowd. DHS and FBI already said they can't screen people they don't have records for. And Damascus doesn't have a hall of records.
Didn't think it was that hard to contemplate.
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