re: Why would terrorist try to come over as a refugee?

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but humans are generally lazy and go the easier route

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No, you're the lazy one who loves to scream from the rooftops the Socratic "All I know is I know nothing" at every possible turn and on every conceivable issue. The FBI has indicated that there is no way for them to screen this number of refugees in this amount of time, so it's reasonable to have impassioned opinions on an issue such as this. Pettifogger just provided a good summary which you of course ignored.

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Pettifogger just provided a good summary which you of course ignored.

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I upvoted him

It's more than just the issue of one terrorist finding his way past the gates of America.

ISIS and other radical groups are actively fomenting a global war. That's what they want. They say so repeatedly by their words and actions.

If subverting the humanitarian effort by Western democracies of taking in refugees will aid in their cause, and it would, then that is why they might choose to utilize the refugee migration to commit acts of terrorism.

Furthermore, the very ideology of Islam lends itself to radicalization. It's simple minded to think about Muslims as either 100% radical terrorists or 100% "moderates". The majority of Muslims, especially from war torn areas of the Middle East, support the goals of ISIS to some extent, at least philosophically, even as they resist the temptation to join in or support violence.

When you bring in Muslim refugees and add to or create new Muslim communities in a Western democracy, you are inviting problems. The cultures do not mix well. The Muslim communities often feel isolated and ostracized and lend themselves to added pressure to radicalize.

The desire to help, rooted as it is in a loving spirit, is misinterpreted by an active and motivated violent enemy as a sign of weakness and an opportunity to take advantage. That is just an unfortunate fact.

Western democracies will either be forced to compromise it's principles of acceptance for all ideogies and for freedom or they will be conquered from within or without. It's simply a matter of time and pressure. Time is running out and the pressure is very high right now.

IMO this refugee population will be a very fertile ground for recruitment, embedding into that population early would yield some type of positive results

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but humans are generally lazy and go the easier route

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I don't disagree, but when your motivation is driven by religion, it can be an incentive.

We already know that Syrians are attempting to enter our southern border. So, it is happening like that right now. We also know that we have been hit by people here legally in visas.

It seems pretty obvious that they are taking the "all of the above" approach.

Therefore, it seems incumbent on us, as a sovereign nation that owes its first responsibility to its citizens, to mitigate potentially bad situations by any means necessary as well.

That does not mean we dislike legit refugees. But, it goes back to the old adage, "I like you but I love me". While we may feel for legit refugees, we can help them over there.

I think it is telling the UAE and Saudi Arabia are not letting any of these people into their nations.

We need to stop doing the things that made America great. Close the borders. Don't allow anyone else to live here. Especially refugees. They're all terrorists.

ISIS is winning, folks.

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hide amongst all these scrutinized refugees?

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Because you flood the zone - you mix in with thousands and thousands of refugees. They will come on charter flights or government ships.

They're going to have stolen passports - a lot more scrutiny is placed on commercial flyers than will be for this lot. I know you guys are having trouble believing us, but it is just the way it is.

Let me tell you how it will go:

There will be huge facilities - think the Katrina shelters. There is language barrier - most refugees will not speak English and few of our vetters will speak Arabic. So, you have to contract out interpreters. The process will be slow. There will be a pressure to get numbers up - regardless of the quality of this vetting. And they'll catch a few and send back. And there will be all these press reports of the cramped, miserable living conditions. Some will just leave before they're vetted.

And the story will be forgotten - and in 6 months, a year, 2 years, there will be an attack. And it will be carried out by some of these folks we've imported. As others have said, Paris was done by 8 (9/11 was done by 19) - so, they can sail in, walk in, fly in if they really want to.

I accept that - what I have trouble with is us going over there, picking them up, bringing them here with open arms and say, "Well, you were going to get here and kill us anyway, so we thought we would streamline the process and bring thousands over at once."

Madness. Suicidal madness.

See, that's just a lazy opinion. It's far more discerning to say, "I don't think we should let them all in at once, but I also don't think this is the apocolypse".

As in... since the beginning of time?

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