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re: Why isn't Puerto Rico a State?
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:57 am to Broke
Posted on 2/12/15 at 8:57 am to Broke
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I can't understand the reasoning behind not just making them a state at this point.
Because they don't want to be. They pay no federal income tax, are eligible for most federal entitlement programs, and aren't eligible for the draft. They get the best of both worlds. Puerto Rico has had several ballot initiatives lately to vote to become Independent, become a state, or continue being a territory and they've chosen to remain a territory every time.
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:00 am to Broke
quote:Because they don't want to be.
Why isn't Puerto Rico a State?
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:04 am to Alatgr
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Nope. They only have to pay federal income tax on income earned outside of Puerto Rico. So your average Puerto Rican living in Puerto Rico doesn't pay income tax, but pretty much gets all the benefits of American citizenship. It's a territory of freeloaders.
This. I was reading up on this recently. I hadn't really taken the time to research it before. I don't think it's commonly known PR is actually a US territory.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:11 am to Broke
Can we replace Montana with PR? Since Montana wants to ban yoga pants... Puerto Rican women would gladly wear yoga pants.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:14 am to SnoopALoop
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Can we replace Montana with PR? Since Montana wants to ban yoga pants... Puerto Rican women would gladly wear yoga pants.
I'd settle for a Nevada trade. Gambling would be much better in PR.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:15 am to Kafka
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Some constitutional scholars claim that if PR becomes a state they could demand all Federal and Congressional business be done in Spanish as well as English. Wouldn't that be delightful..
U.S. Senate, here I come!
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:15 am to redstick13
I'm just mad they get they get their own Olympic team. 
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:20 am to DollaChoppa
The number of voters voting to be a state in second question was less than 50% of the total numbers of voters that voted on first question (stay status quo or not).
They had votes to get some kind of change including more independence but did not have enough votes for statehood on a straight up yes or no to statehood, so they divided it into 2 questions to use independence seekers to help get a yes to change (either statehood or independence) and then 2nd question with 3 choices but no choice for closer to status quo but slight modifications. Status quo supporters either did not vote in 2nd question or had to choose in their opinion between lesser of two evils and not what they really wanted. Even their Gov said those questions were a trap.
I think they should be an independent country, but if they want to show they really want to be a state they need to vote on a single straight up yes or no to statehood.
They had votes to get some kind of change including more independence but did not have enough votes for statehood on a straight up yes or no to statehood, so they divided it into 2 questions to use independence seekers to help get a yes to change (either statehood or independence) and then 2nd question with 3 choices but no choice for closer to status quo but slight modifications. Status quo supporters either did not vote in 2nd question or had to choose in their opinion between lesser of two evils and not what they really wanted. Even their Gov said those questions were a trap.
I think they should be an independent country, but if they want to show they really want to be a state they need to vote on a single straight up yes or no to statehood.
This post was edited on 2/12/15 at 10:28 am
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:29 am to dallastigers
Puerto Rico being a state would have a few problems.
I've been to PR and while I had one of the better trips of my life, as a state...nah.
While its better than the rest of the Caribbean, it is still very 3rd World in a lot of areas. On the coasts, most people speak English, but as you go inland there are large populations that don't speak much English at all.
As a state, they would be a much larger financial drain.
I've been to PR and while I had one of the better trips of my life, as a state...nah.
While its better than the rest of the Caribbean, it is still very 3rd World in a lot of areas. On the coasts, most people speak English, but as you go inland there are large populations that don't speak much English at all.
As a state, they would be a much larger financial drain.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 9:43 am to Fun Bunch
But but they could be a closer Hawaii
Surge the island with tourist money
Surge the island with tourist money
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:14 am to Broke
So they can manufacture all of our Rx drugs dirt cheap and bilk us in the states
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:15 am to Broke
Because republicans would complain about non-white people with the potential to vote in presidential elections.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:17 am to Emiliooo
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Surge the island with tourist money
That already happens, really.
And it is an AWESOME place to visit. Tons of stuff to do and see.
Democrats should be clamoring to make them a state, though.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:24 am to iAmBatman
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They don't want to be a state. I believe they've voted on it and they rejected statehood.
In 2012 they voted to become a state.
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A referendum on the political status of Puerto Rico was held in Puerto Rico on November 6, 2012. It was the fourth referendum on status to be held in Puerto Rico and the first in which a majority voted for statehood. Puerto Rico has been an unincorporated territory of the United States since the Spanish-American War in 1898.
Puerto Rican voters were asked two questions: (1) whether they agreed to continue with Puerto Rico's territorial status and (2) to indicate the political status they preferred from three possibilities: statehood, independence, or a sovereign nation in free association with the United States.[2] 970,910 (54.00%) voted "No" on the first question, expressing themselves against maintaining the current political status, and 828,077 (46.00%) voted "Yes", to maintain the current political status. Of those who answered on the second question 834,191 (61.11%) chose statehood, 454,768 (33.34%) chose free association, and 74,895 (5.55%) chose independence.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:36 am to Road Tiger
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It would be too much trouble to add a star to all the flags so why bother?
nope...when Hawaii leaves...still 50...
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:40 am to MyNameIsNobody
Mississippi wouldn't be last in every metric anymore. Let em in.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:45 am to Broke
My honest and simple guess is that it will disrupt our glorious 50 state kingdom. Perhaps when Texas secedes Puerto Rico will be invited.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:47 am to thebert4130
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This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:48 am to Clyde Tipton
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Oh, I must be thinking of Mexico
No they have more rights than PR.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:56 am to Catman88
I'd rather have Cuba as a state. Cigars and rum FTW.
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