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re: Why don't suburbs like Central and Walker ban high density developments?
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:53 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:53 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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personally, a suburb has to go "all out" like this or i have no interest. either make in nice, clean, pretty, safe, and sanitized... or don't bother.
There is no way to even come close to preserving the "small town feel' without actually being a small town unless there are some pretty tight restrictions on development.
And ultimately it's going to end up just being a more expensive suburb with a bogie main street. But I'd rather live there than in a poorly planned, overly dense suburb.
IMO Baton Rouge has sort of lacked a more controlled, better quality suburb because the city itself was more viable than places like Jackson (which has Madison) or Memphis (which has Germantown, Collierville, Arlington, and Olive Branch). You still have a lot of working/middle class people in Baton Rouge that are totally okay with paying tuition. So there wasn't as much of a need for higher quality suburbs until fairly recently. And they've just not had quite as much time to get themselves organized yet.
But yeah - sign/lighting restrictions, the curbing of multi-family rental housing/apartment complexes, and careful sewer and road infrastructure improvements just aren't really seen in Louisiana's suburbs. At least not yet.
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 9:57 am
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:03 am to BeepNode
The bigger, nicer suburbs around Atlanta or Memphis have restrictions on the % of homes that can be multi-family.
And a huge number of those multi family homes are condos that are marketed specifically towards older, retired people. Some have 55+ age restrictions.
And a huge number of those multi family homes are condos that are marketed specifically towards older, retired people. Some have 55+ age restrictions.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:05 am to biglego
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Apartments are going up all over Katy Texas so unfortunately Katy is doomed
The issue is that when they are built, they are usually very good at attracting the exact type of renter they are looking for: young adults and young families that need affordable housing near their workplace.
The problem comes as they age and the apartment complex changes hands a few times. It becomes less desirable and the owner has to rely on section 8 vouchers to keep the rent coming in. Which means that the value of the multi family housing is artificially high, so it's harder for a developer to buy it, knock it down, and repurpose it.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:13 am to BeepNode
Cities suck when it comes to handling growth.
They aren't prepared.
They fail with the response.
Developers swoop in and frick everyone.
The "rural" place we moved to 8 years ago barely resembles it any more. The city has yet to find a piece of forest that it doesn't think looks better with cookie cutter McMansions. Never mind the roads can't handle the flow, and schools are bursting at the seams...
They aren't prepared.
They fail with the response.
Developers swoop in and frick everyone.
The "rural" place we moved to 8 years ago barely resembles it any more. The city has yet to find a piece of forest that it doesn't think looks better with cookie cutter McMansions. Never mind the roads can't handle the flow, and schools are bursting at the seams...
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:17 am to BeepNode
I don’t understand the apartments in Central by shoe creek but I doubt low income is in there. I do not like the storage unit in plain sight.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:22 am to LouisianaLady
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The apartments near Central Walmart have been there longer than I’ve been alive.
Central Woods? From what I've heard, they were known as "Central Hoods" for years
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:00 am to member12
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The bigger, nicer suburbs around Atlanta... have restrictions on the % of homes that can be multi-family.
What doesn't get enough push is "missing-middle" housing:
Developed right with a significant emphasis on owner-occupied, it's a great tool for development (without relying solely on stick-built cheap starter homes and apartments).
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:01 am to member12
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. It becomes less desirable and the owner has to rely on section 8 vouchers to keep the rent coming in.
I think a lot of the issues surrounding apartments could be solved if the feds dumped the Section 8 program.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:12 am to member12
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It becomes less desirable and the owner has to rely on section 8 vouchers to keep the rent coming in. Which means that the value of the multi family housing is artificially high
Yes, the government providing these vouchers is absolutely inflating prices. There's no ability for the market to just do its thing.
There are also a ton of grants available for lower income first-time homeowners that will cover 100% of the down payment with zero to be paid back if they live in the home for a period of time.
These people are "buying" homes with government money.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:42 am to dewster
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IMO Baton Rouge has sort of lacked a more controlled, better quality suburb because the city itself was more viable than places like Jackson (which has Madison) or Memphis (which has Germantown, Collierville, Arlington, and Olive Branch). You still have a lot of working/middle class people in Baton Rouge that are totally okay with paying tuition. So there wasn't as much of a need for higher quality suburbs until fairly recently. And they've just not had quite as much time to get themselves organized yet.
baton rouge also sucks arse to get in and out of. Going a few miles in Baton Rouge can take a half hour.
Add that the burbs are almost certainly going to come with increased flood risk and it makes sense why a "the woodlands lite" never developed in BR.
St Fransville is the most realistic option
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:19 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I don’t understand the apartments in Central by shoe creek but I doubt low income is in there. I do not like the storage unit in plain sight
I can’t stand that storage place right there. Wish it never got approval.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:37 pm to BeepNode
I don’t know how they are selling DSLD/Horton houses 3 feet apart for $350k plus, but somehow they are.
This post was edited on 3/27/23 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:38 pm to BeepNode
You talk about republicans but then suggest banning developments and creating more government restrictions. Not very conservative of you…
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:01 pm to r0cky1
Well we all know it’s the democrats causing the problems baw
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:07 pm to BeepNode
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Demand that ALL new construction be A) big lots B) big houses C) not increase flooding to surrounding homes.
Shocking I know, but not everyone who lives in an apartment complex is a criminal.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:10 pm to GetCocky11
People get PTSD in this area when apartments go up near them because they have decades of evidence and dozens of examples of them starting out nice and going to shite most of the time. They are correct too in this area at least.
I can only think of a handful of apartment complexes in the BR metro that are 20+ years old that aren't crappy now.
I can only think of a handful of apartment complexes in the BR metro that are 20+ years old that aren't crappy now.
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:13 pm to GetCocky11
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Shocking I know, but not everyone who lives in an apartment complex is a criminal.
And not all pit bulls attack people. But you wouldn't want one next door.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:18 pm to fallguy_1978
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People get PTSD in this area when apartments go up near them because they have decades of evidence and dozens of examples of them starting out nice and going to shite most of the time. They are correct too in this area at least.
I can only think of a handful of apartment complexes in the BR metro that are 20+ years old that aren't crappy now.
Sounds more like a Louisiana problem than an apartment problem.
If you live in a desirable area that attracts people, then apartment complexes maintain their attractiveness.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:25 pm to GetCocky11
Sorry you live in an apartment baw. The trailer park of the middle class
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:31 pm to fallguy_1978
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I can only think of a handful of apartment complexes in the BR metro that are 20+ years old that aren't crappy now.
Can you share these examples? I'd be genuinely surprised.
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