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re: why do british people speak so weird

Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:26 am to
very well. off you go
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Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:28 am to
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Actually, we sound today like what the British sounded like in the 17th and 18th century. It was during the 19th century that the British accent changed as it became fashionable to talk that way. People even took lessons to learn how to speak that way. So it was the British that changed, not the Americans.


When you say "we", do you mean those of a southern persuasion and twang?





I've heard this before (on here I believe) but didn't know if it was actually true or not.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 10:29 am
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:30 am to
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When you say "we", do you mean those of a southern persuasion and twang?


Well, I don't have an accent to speak of, so I group myself in with that lot. I think it is along the lines of the Midwestern accent that I speak of, which is what is considered the "American accent." British actors are taught a Midwestern accent when they try to Americanize for roles.
Posted by USAF Hart
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:30 am to
u fokin wut m8!? You wanna 'ave a go huh? i'll knock the knickers off ya
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:31 am to
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Why do people in other former British Colonies (i.e., Australia and South Africa) sound so much more British than Americans and Canadians?



Australia was a dumping ground for criminals and homeless.

South Africa is in Africa. And mostly British.

America was a land immigrated to by people from all over Europe, Africa, and Asia. French, Spanish, German, English, Scottish, Irish, Portuguese, African, Russian, Italian, Sicilian, Polish, Swiss, etc.... All of those cultures and accents and shite mixed and created the greatest nation in the history of the world.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:31 am to
You are stupider than the poster who asked how deaf people think.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 10:32 am
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:32 am to
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u fokin wut m8!? You wanna 'ave a go huh? i'll knock the knickers off ya


I think that is more of a Cockney accent, which is very unique in Britain and has its roots in the Industrial Age working class. It's almost code.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:32 am to
I've read a few actual academic articles besides on here, confirming what he's saying about the accents. Interesting stuff.

I posted this in another thread before, but a fun fact is that cavemen actually had very short vocal cords and high pitched voices, not gruff deep voices as one would imagine.

:themoreyouknow:
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:32 am to
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asked how deaf people think.


Do you have a link to that thread?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:33 am to
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South Africa is in Africa. And mostly British.


There's actually a really large percentage of Afrikaans (who are German/Dutch descendants) and they all sound really British as well. I know a guy here who is one.
Posted by Kajungee
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:33 am to
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Actually, we sound today like what the British sounded like in the 17th and 18th century.


Who is this WE you speak of, That chick from New Orleans don't sound nothing like my girl from Breaux Bridge.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:33 am to
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Why do people in other former British Colonies (i.e., Australia and South Africa) sound so much more British than Americans and Canadians?




Just a guess but could be that these places saw most of their settlement of British expats in the 19th century when the current British accent had already developed?
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:35 am to
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Why do people in other former British Colonies (i.e., Australia and South Africa) sound so much more British than Americans and Canadians?


Canada was colonized by the French around the same time America was colonized. Then the British took it in the 1750's during the French and Indian War.

Australia and South Africa were settled about 150 to 200 years after The New World was and saw large influxes of British emigrants after the accent had begun to change back home.
Posted by Gleaux93
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:36 am to
Nothing weird about speaking the King's.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:37 am to
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Just a guess but could be that these places saw most of their settlement of British expats in the 19th century when the current British accent had already developed?



Would be my suggestion.

They are all more recent colonies.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:41 am to
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Well, I don't have an accent to speak of, so I group myself in with that lot. I think it is along the lines of the Midwestern accent that I speak of, which is what is considered the "American accent." British actors are taught a Midwestern accent when they try to Americanize for roles.




Gotcha. I have heard a couple of distinct American accents, from the deep south twang, to the Rocky and Cawlos New Awlins Yat, to the New Yawk utes (very similar to the Yat), and finally the Baston Havod Yod.

I have no idea which is really the King's English of the 17th century.

Ironically, I have found that the Irish accent closest to the general American accent of any overseas English speaking country.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 10:43 am
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:44 am to
The accents of New Orleans, New York City and Boston are curiously similar.

Anyone know why? (Past the obvious)
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 10:46 am to
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u fokin wut m8!? You wanna 'ave a go huh? i'll knock the knickers off ya

Piss off u loud mouv tosser. I'll hav u lad, init. Call me a fockin chov, do ya?
Posted by Sayre
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:08 am to
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What ever caused us to lose ours? When and how did settlers and later early Americans stop speaking with an accent? Or START speaking with an American one?


One of you scholars answer me this. Why is it when someone is singing in English, no matter whether they're from the United Kingdom, Australia, or America, their singing voice sounds American. It doesn't matter if it's Mick Jagger or Elvis Costello or Adele. I first noticed it when I was about 4 or 5 and saw the Beatles singing on TV in a replay of one of their Ed Sullivan performances. I remember being floored when they were interviewed and spoke English with an accent I'd never heard before even though Paul's and John's singing sounded American. I always took it to mean that speaking with an American accent meant speaking in highly enunciated English or really the lack of an accent altogether.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 11:12 am
Posted by USAF Hart
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Posted on 1/8/16 at 11:24 am to
You're talkin rubbish m8. Go polish off a todger you bloody wanka.
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