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re: WHO: Masks should only be worn by healthy people when caring for covid patients

Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:15 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:15 am to
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:15 am to
How in the frick did the OT not catch this?

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Dr. April Baller



OT Detectives need to provide pics ASAP. If this chick is even sort of hot, a doctor and has that name she will be the board mascot.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 8:17 am
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:16 am to
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any repository symptoms


This disease is insidious! The things it does to people...more and more symptoms are being revealed.

Now it's attacking our storage capacity.

Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:19 am to
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More of the same contradictory bullshite... you don’t need a mask, but healthcare workers do.

Why would a mask not work for someone in public but work for someone in the hospital?
You are the only doctor I have seen be confused by this

Being someone trained in proper mask wearing who is standing over a patient for long intervals at a time at a very close distance is far different than a common person without a clue on proper mask wearing walking around somewhere in which they never make close contact with someone


Our doctors and infection control all but think mask wearing has ZERO positive effect on virus spread. It is why our policy is to wear a mask when in areas patients can see us, but we are allowed to take them off once inside our office space.....


If people want to wear a mask more power to them, but from pretty much everyone in medicine i trust, it doesnt make a material difference for the general public
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 8:20 am
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:19 am to
I have had to work up numerous COVID exposures just this week with healthcare staff that tested positive. Having to figure out where exactly they worked at and have the managers of those areas compile lists of staff that may have worked with them.


Remember now....you are still quite infectious 48-72 hours BEFORE you even show symptoms. So you don't even know you are sick yet and are spreading it around to other.

Thankfully for us....EVERYONE is required to wear a mask at work. And all patients have to wear a mask in our clinics. Doesn't matter if you do no patient care whatsoever in our hospitals or clinics...you are wearing a mask. So this does lessen the amount of exposure because the person that ends up testing positive was also wearing a mask and less likely to have spread it as much. It doesn't eliminate the exposure...but it does lessen it.



So....if you had to work in a small office with your coworkers and found out one of them has COVID....would you rather they had worn a mask or not?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:22 am to
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So....if you had to work in a small office with your coworkers and found out one of them has COVID....would you rather they had worn a mask or not?


I dont think it would make a differnce one way or the other

Whats interesting, is Oriental Asian countries wear masks as part of everyday life more than anywhere else, yet, respiratory viruses always seem to start and spread there
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 8:23 am
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:23 am to
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It is why our policy is to wear a mask when in areas patients can see us, but we are allowed to take them off once inside our office space.....




Well that isn't what my medical director....an adult infectious disease specialist....and our Chief Medical Officer mandates at my healthcare system


EVERYONE is wearing a mask at our facilities.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:23 am to
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So....if you had to work in a small office with your coworkers and found out one of them has COVID....would you rather they had worn a mask or not?


If you were in an office with them all day... it doesn't really matter. They're touching things, you're touching things, they're touching their face, you're touching your face.

If someone is coughing up a lung, I'd rather them have a mask on. Or just stay home.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:25 am to
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Well that isn't what my medical director....an adult infectious disease specialist....and our Chief Medical Officer mandates at my healthcare system


EVERYONE is wearing a mask at our facilities.
Good for your area

There is pretty much a split with just about every single source on what does work and doesnt work etc etc with this virus. We all have to choose who we think is most credible, and do our own analysis on what we think makes sense

I have no problem disagreeing
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:25 am to
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Our doctors and infection control all but think mask wearing has ZERO positive effect on virus spread. It is why our policy is to wear a mask when in areas patients can see us, but we are allowed to take them off once inside our office space.....


Same over here.
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
LA
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:25 am to
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They're touching things, you're touching things


Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:26 am to
Touching me... touching you...





SWEEEEETTTT CAROLIIIINNNNNEEE.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:26 am to
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They're touching things, you're touching things
Ok Neil Diamond
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:27 am to
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I have no problem disagreeing


This entire thread screams otherwise
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:28 am to
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This entire thread screams otherwise

Exactly how?

This thread is pointing out how contradictory every "expert" is when it comes to this virus

Its pretty much impossible for people to have the same beliefs when there isnt even close to a consensus within the medical community itself

This isnt like other things where only 1% of doctors are disagreeing (think vaccines).
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 8:30 am
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:29 am to
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Exactly how?


The very first words of the opening post

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Well, virtue signalers are going to be pissed ?



Do not try to disguise an "I told you so" thread
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 8:31 am
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:29 am to
lol if you believe NY Post is considered to be a liberal publication.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96197 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:30 am to
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The very first words of the opening post
And?

I think there is a rather large difference with nurse and waweewawee, who thinks mask should be worn and can help, to those people who scorn others without a mask and simply use it to show their virtue
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 8:31 am
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129047 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:31 am to
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If you were in an office with them all day... it doesn't really matter. They're touching things, you're touching things, they're touching their face, you're touching your face.



If you can't grasp how a mask helps to contain respiratory droplets then I don't know what to tell you Boo. Use the basics on why medical staff wear masks while doing surgery.

This thing is primarily spread from person to person contact...with our respiratory droplets.

Yes you are touching things...but that is where hand washing comes in play. Yes you can technically get this through touching common surfaces and then touching your face. But....you are MORE likely to get this having close contact with someone and breathing it in while they are talking, singing, coughing, sneezing the droplets out of their mouth. So....if they are wearing a mask....that minimizes those droplets from coming out of their mouth and nose and getting close enough to infect you.


People wearing masks around you isn't gonna 100% protect you. Neither is social distancing or hand washing.

But....you do a combination of those things...and you are obviously gonna be more protected than if you didn't do any of those things.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96197 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 8:33 am to
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Use the basics on why medical staff wear masks while doing surgery.
Because they are trained, and they are hovering within a foot of a patients face at times for hours on end.....Not to mention how close the instrumentation gets to their face that they then put inside someones body.....

Dont know how you and your co-workers are, but that isnt really something we do in our office setting....

Comparing surgeons to everyday people in public is such an interesting argument. Surgeons also wear gowns and caps. Should we wear those too?
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 8:35 am
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