re: When do you think it's ok to divorce?

Thanks she is at "that age" where the hormonal stuff is a likely driver. Too bad she doesn't see it amazing to see a life tossed aside because of it.

Whenever the partnership or team attitude is gone

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I never had many gfs during the time period after college and prior to marriage. I just didn't see the point. If there was a girl that I wanted to have sex with but not marry... I would just do that...but not make her my gf...why?

The moment you know you will never marry your gf or your gf has qualities that you would never want in a wife, cut bait and break up with her. You're just wasting each other's times and building her hopes up. You could keep her around for the sex but after years of being faithful to the gf you have no long term future with...you'll realize you wasted a lot of your prime years.

But if marriage is not something you want to do in your lifetime, go ahead, be that guy that ALWAYS has a gf.

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Exactly. I have never understood anyone who dated just "to date". I think its a waste of time and I think in some cases if you date casually too long and too much, you can get stuck into that relationship mode, thus making it a bigger adjustment to take a relationship seriously.

People complain all the time about "getting hurt" and "there's just not any good people out there to date".

Aw, boohoo. Maybe you shouldn't have started dating a guy/girl you just met a week ago and you have got along for exactly 1 week, or dated that guy/girl because of exactly 5 particular characteristics and completely blew off characteristics like "does he/she lie?", "will he/she steal from you or help you when you are down/weak?".

Its the equivalent of getting into a broken down mercedes because its a mercedes, and then complaining that its broken down.

You wanted a mercedes? You got a fricking mercedes, but you never asked if the engine was any good. Seems like that should have been question #1.


If you can accept them for the worst parts of who they are, and they can accept you for the same, its all up from there. Besides, most marriages occur in the physical primes of both spouses lives, so its not a surprise the marriage ceremony is the peak of the relationship for lots of couples.

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The (traditional) vows do say in sickness, blah blah blah

But what if the other person just sucks and doesn't do their part? When is enough, enough?

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Marriage is just a legal status. Do vows change the relationship? In reality, are there things you would do different once the relationship is made legal vs the day before when it was not legal?