re: When did cops go from protect and serve to comply or die?

It's pretty easy to hide evidence of wrongdoing when you write the reports, your own police department investigates the crime and the system that pays you doles out the punishment.

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Do you obey the law? Then you have nothing to worry about!

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Only when it suits me but for the most part I don't really care too much. I have money, I can afford a good lawyer, I am more or less above the law.

I don't trust barf's research based on his posts in this thread, but let's assume his number of LEO with arrest power is accurate.

Let's say that we have 30,000 cops in america who do crappy stuff. Abuse power, shoot when unnecessary, write BS tickets, plant evidence, and any other number of bad things. 30,000...that's a shite ton of bad apples doing the absolute wrong thing that they should be doing.

Yet...that still only makes up 4% of the total number. 4. So we're going to sit here and blame an ENTIRE profession based on the actions of 4% of its makeup?

Yep. This is a very good read

25 Downvotes shows the mindset of most of the clowns on this board. Sick arse shite.

That 4% has the ability to get someone the death penalty

I know a lot of cops. Most of them are pretty cool outside of work. Most of them are cool while they're working. I have also met and dealt with plenty of bad, a-hole-ish cops that were on a power trip or hyper-agressive. Maybe it's not the best idea to walk up and try to establish dominance over people before even speaking to them. I'd say the ratio is 3:1 good to bad.

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Think of the thousands upon thousands of videos we don't see where the cop is probably cool as shite....but that isn't news worthy

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I'll give you one.
I was driving my car down a two lane highway. I'm talking on the phone through the bluetooth in the car. I see a cop on a cross street above and he pulls out behind me after i pass. I noticed i wasn't speeding or anything, and wasn't worried and didn't pay anymore attention to the officer behind me.

I get to a red light about 10 seconds later. I stopped at the light, cop stops behind me, then i just went through the red light. I treated like a stop sign, b/c i wasn't paying attention b/c i was on the phone.

Cop comes after me and puts his lights on and my initial reaction was, "what the frick is he doing". So i pulled over at the next side street. He takes a while and finally asks me to get out the car with my license and registration. He stays in the car and checks my stuff. Takes a good while. I finally asks him why he pulled me over. His face was classic. I'm still amazed he kept his composure after i said that. He very angrily tells me i ran a red light. I was like "man i'm sorry, i literally had no idea i did that. I saw you behind me. I'll be honest, i was on my phone through the cars bluetooth and just wasn't paying attention. That is pretty scary to think that i just did that."
We talked a little bit more and kind of laughed at how stupid i was. He basically told me he went from thinking i was a criminal running from the police, to being confused at how polite i was about it after he pulled me over and not "running", and then thinking i was a dumbass once i told him what i did. It was so stupid he had to believe it.


He didn't even give me a ticket, even though he had every reason to treat me like a hostile person considering what i did.

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That 4% has the ability to get someone the death penalty

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And I'm not excusing them. I'm saying that many people (this thread for instance) form an opinion of an ENTIRE group of people almost a million strong based on the actions of 4%. Doesn't seem logical.

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I know a lot of cops. Most of them are pretty cool outside of work. Most of them are cool while they're working. I have also met and dealt with plenty of bad, a-hole-ish cops that were on a power trip or hyper-agressive.

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Right, so all the ones you know are pretty good dudes but you've also met some jerks. Welcome to every profession.

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I'd say the ratio is 3:1 good to bad

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lol. Got news for you...if if 1 out of every 4 cops were crooked or assholes, we'd have a lot more problems on our hands than we do.

In the city that I live in, we almost have a fairy tale level PD. They are invovled in the community, come out to special events, hold citizen's acadmedy trainings, bring drug overdosers back to life on scene, rescue pets, help old people mow their yard, etc. Maybe I'm out of touch with reality based on our city having outstanding police. Maybe if you live in shittier areas you get shittier cops.