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re: What's the next technological advancement to make cars crappier?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:14 pm to TigerRob20
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:14 pm to TigerRob20
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Veepeak Mini Bluetooth OBD2 OBDII Scan Tool
however
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Most of the apps seem to be paid apps so expect to pay an additional $5-30 for an app. Search for the app before you purchase this device so you are not stung by app sticker shock. This unit does NOT include an app, you must purchase a third party app to speak to the device.
they should have added another $10 to the device price and bundled it with a great app
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:14 pm to airfernando
quote:You can cite anecdotes, or you can cite actual factual numbers to show what's safer. I'll help with the numbers.
Tell that to the people who died in those Toyotas or the person who died in that Tesla. You can tell them, but they prob won't hear.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:17 pm to Korkstand
did you really just cite a study that starts at 1920 when cars looked like this? 
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:21 pm to CAD703X
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did you really just cite a study that starts at 1920 when cars looked like this?
This entire thread is based on people saying older cars are better. So, by using your mantra, this car is far superior to your 20 year old truck.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:23 pm to upgrayedd
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So, by using your mantra, this car is far superior to your 20 year old truck.
dude, surely you're not so ignorant you didn't notice the hockey stick began to level out after 1970 huh?
but then again that makes your zinger less potent.
eta define 'better'. i never said safer. i'm sure if a new car comes out with a gigantic airbag condom that makes the car explode and turn into a giant bubble it will be safer.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:26 pm to CAD703X
quote:I bet it was super easy to work on.
did you really just cite a study that starts at 1920 when cars looked like this?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:28 pm to CAD703X
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dude, surely you're not so ignorant you didn't notice the hockey stick began to level out after 1970 huh?
but then again that makes your zinger less potent.
eta define 'better'. i never said safer. i'm sure if a new car comes out with a gigantic airbag condom that makes the car explode and turn into a giant bubble it will be safer.
The point is that a 500+ hp V8 Vette capable of 20+ mpg with HUD, AC seats, and navigation is leaps and bounds above the same model built 20 years ago.
This notion that "cars these days are shitty" is complete nonsense spoken by morons.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:29 pm to Korkstand
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I bet it was super easy to work on.
let me know how much tesla maintenance you do yourself.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:29 pm to CAD703X
quote:Eesh, surely you're not so ignorant to not understand how exponential/logarithmic functions work, huh?
dude, surely you're not so ignorant you didn't notice the hockey stick began to level out after 1970 huh?
Here's a hint: if you "zoom in" on the later years, the chart will look very similar to the full chart.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:30 pm to upgrayedd
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This notion that "cars these days are shitty" is complete nonsense spoken by morons.
well for one i never said that.
i did say i prefer a vehicle i can work on myself should it break down because i dont chase car notes. did that once and after my trainwreck of an ex totalled it, i said i'd never spend that kind of bank on a car that could be reduced to rubble in 2 years.
besides the 4runner rocks.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:32 pm to CAD703X
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dude, surely you're not so ignorant you didn't notice the hockey stick began to level out after 1970 huh?
The other line on the graph. Look at it.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:34 pm to CAD703X
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they should have added another $10 to the device price and bundled it with a great app
While you could buy one, most of them are free. So don't let that discourage you.
Mine is by a company called XTool, it has a green icon that looks like a check engine light.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:34 pm to CAD703X
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let me know how much tesla maintenance you do yourself.
It's time to retire this line of argumentation. We get it, you like to do as much vehicle maintenance as you can. You're somewhat atypical, and I'm sure you don't necessarily extend this type of mantra to all areas of your life. Do you grow all of your own food too? Make your own housing materials. How's that candle making going for lighting your home?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:36 pm to Gaston
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I think inline 6s mated to a manual transmission are the greatest things ever
Ever had a Chevy 327 hooked up to a Borg Warner 4 speed?
To the OP, I agree 100%. I want my steering wheel directly connected to the wheels, and my gas pedal directly connected to the throttle. With today's computers and fuel injection/direct port injection, you can kiss those days goodbye.
My car has "adaptive headlight." WHen you turn the wheel, the headlights turn a little in the same direction you are going.
One side is broken so it just points forward, like a normal headlight. You can't tell a bit of difference.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:39 pm to Mo Jeaux
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The other line on the graph. Look at it.
all i know is since 1963, despite the # of miles travelled, TN annual fatality rate has hovered 1,110 every single year.
i guess everyone is still driving 1960s cars in TN
LINK
6th PDF down. I'm not going to try to cut & paste from a PDF.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:39 pm to Gaston
And to answer your question, I think 4 wheel steering is going to be big. Honda tried it about 20 years ago and it didn't fly. Manufacturers are getting back into it now that computers process so quickly. Could actually be a nice jump in how cars handle.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:40 pm to CAD703X
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all i know is since 1963, despite the # of miles travelled, TN annual fatality rate has hovered 1,110 every single year.
You're arguing against yourself here.
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i guess everyone is still driving 1960s cars in TN
Umm, except they're not.
ETA: And look at those fatality rates too! Thanks for destroying your own argument.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:41 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Do you grow all of your own food too?
nope, just peppers and tomatoes and herbs. they are delicious too.
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Make your own housing materials
because houses break down on the middle of the interstate and require a quick dry-wall intall?
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How's that candle making going for lighting your home?
its called cree '20 year life money back guarantee' LEDs. kinda the same thing. haven't replaced a bulb in years due to it burning out.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:42 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Umm, except they're not.
so why doesnt the fatality rate go down as the # of miles driven goes up like kork posted unless nobody is buying the new safer cars?
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:46 pm to CAD703X
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so why doesnt the fatality rate go down as the # of miles driven goes up like kork posted unless nobody is buying the new safer cars?
What? Are you high? Go back and really look at that chart that you posted.
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