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re: Whats harder: engineering or Medical school?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:11 am to jose
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:11 am to jose
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In the states, they care about their numbers, so they will help you out some sort of way.
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In the Caribbean,
Isnt the Caribbean where everyone goes who couldnt get into medical school in the states?
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Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:13 am to Phat Phil
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Med schools have 99% graduation rate. It takes a whole lot of work I'm sure, but once you're in, you're out with the degree, guaranteed.
Not true, now there are national USMLE exams that medical students must pass to advance, there are 3 steps or exams. Step 1 after second medical school year, Step 2 before medical school graduation, and Step 3 after first intern year. Fail any steps and you cannot advance.
Medical training is way longer than engineer, undergrad 4 years + medical school 4 years + residency at least 3 years or up to 9+years for specialize fields like neurosurgery, pediatric surgery...
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:16 am to Lokistale
what's harder? Med school or PHD in engineering?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:21 am to goldenbadger08
Huh? You realize nurses don't go to med school?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:26 am to Jones
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Isnt the Caribbean where everyone goes who couldnt get into medical school in the states?
That would be the Australia program. And if you can't get in there, then you go to the Caribbean
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:31 am to Volvagia
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What is harder for you: memorizing or applying.
Therin lies your answer.
all these people in here really think doctors don't have to solve complex problems by applying what they learn in school and beyond? Imagine someone having cancer in their brain and you have to figure out a way to make it go away. Pretty sure they don't memorize a formula for that.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:34 am to MRTigerFan
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Biomedical Engineering
This. I come from a world of both engineering and medicine as this was my major and I can easily say that if I were ranking the four it would go in this order Med school > BME> Engineering> Premed.
Premed is basically taking all the same basic classes as most engineering students with more life science and chem involved. Engineering is all problem solving so if you get the concepts and have good teachers its doable. However, you can still shite the bed in several engineering courses and walk out with a good grade. However for what I studied it was probably one of the most hardest majors to complete because you're getting hit from both sides and the BME classes are fricking miserable. Quantitative Physiology and some of the other shite we took was worst than anything most engineering or pre med students would take. And while we had it bad med school is even worst. Everything is more specific and more memorization.
BME is an interesting field and I love what I do but I wouldn't advise it to all. There is a reason why people who major in this have had the highest MCAT across all majors.....
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:47 am to RebelExpress38
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all these people in here really think doctors don't have to solve complex problems by applying what they learn in school and beyond?
Did I say that?
Just that this makes the fundamental difference of difficulty between engineering and med school.
And to almost prove my point, you bring up example of actions a doctor won't be allowed to do till nearly 12 years AFTER med school.
I'm not saying that doctors don't have to apply things, or use logic.
But 80% of med school, especially the first two years, is just to turn you into a walking textbook.
I've known multiple practicing doctors who didn't understand GNG as a process.
They just know the tangents to it, and how to treat it.
(And no, Zack, I am not thinking of you.
)This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 12:50 am
Posted on 3/19/14 at 5:59 am to SuperSoakher
Med school and undergrad engineering don't even compare, and anyone arguing the contrary is either ignorant of the demands of Med school or a moron.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 6:08 am to SuperSoakher
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This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 8:21 am
Posted on 3/20/14 at 4:47 pm to Buttermilk Pancakes
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Premed
No such major exists. You can go to med school with an art degree if you do well on the mcat
Posted on 3/20/14 at 5:00 pm to RebelExpress38
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Imagine someone having cancer in their brain and you have to figure out a way to make it go away. Pretty sure they don't memorize a formula for that.
If they are oncologist I would hope they have the currently accepted treatment protocols memorized.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 5:18 pm to MRTigerFan
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No way, Jose.
Doesn't get old, does it?
Posted on 3/20/14 at 5:27 pm to jose
The real bitch is that so much of the info you're cramming is pretty much worthless in practice. It will really piss you off someday when you look back at the time and cost you put into all those books collecting dust...
Posted on 3/20/14 at 5:32 pm to junkfunky
The reason that >90% of medical students finish medical school is because of the debt. If we were paying regular tuition, I bet less than 50% of the class would stick it out and that doesn't even factor in residency which is much harder than med school. Most concepts taught in med school are not difficult to grasp, but the sheer quantity of knowledge that doctors are supposed to know and be able to utilize on a daily basis is staggering. You don't need to be really smart to be a doctor. If you're lazy though, you're gonna have a bad time.
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