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re: What is your solution to the homeless problem?

Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35480 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:59 pm to
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The only way you'll solve the problem is build housing and allow the occupants to drink or use.

Exactly. I happened to watch a doc about homeless on Amazon last night. A surprising amount of them were homeless by choice and the majority of them wouldn't stay in shelters because they can't use drugs there. How do you help someone that doesn't want to be helped?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:02 pm to
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How do you help someone that doesn't want to be helped?

You don't.


I remember the story a few years back in NYC where the cop bought a homeless guy some shoes because he was barefoot in the winter. It went viral and a few days later someone did a follow up to the story. I believe the guy was shoeless again.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:05 pm to
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In the England of Edward VI, vagrants would be branded and then enslaved. I think that's a start.


Sadly, they would probably be better off.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:13 pm to
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Exactly. I happened to watch a doc about homeless on Amazon last night. A surprising amount of them were homeless by choice and the majority of them wouldn't stay in shelters because they can't use drugs there. How do you help someone that doesn't want to be helped?


I know both Seattle and Anchorage have housing where the occupants are allowed to drink.

Friend in Seattle got some kind of tax break or funding to build a shelter in her backyard for a homeless person.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136804 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:16 pm to
Weed legal states need to have huge farms where they are only allowed to smoke weed
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25342 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:18 pm to
Kip Holden's administration (Baton Rouge) used to buy them bus tickets to Atlanta. It really cleaned up downtown.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:20 pm to
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Kip Holden's administration (Baton Rouge) used to buy them bus tickets to Atlanta. It really cleaned up downtown.


Villages around here buy them Ferry tickets to Juneau. Mayor called them out on it.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:20 pm to
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Mandatory stay at a mental health facility. That's where 99.9% of the homeless belong.


A friends teenage daughter just tried to kill herself, the family is having trouble finding a facility just for short term treatment as there are no open beds anywhere, exactly where would the homeless be placed?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35480 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:20 pm to
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I know both Seattle and Anchorage have housing where the occupants are allowed to drink.

Seattle has an actual apartment complex, not a shelter, for alcoholics. You can't get in unless you're an alcoholic. There's a fine line between helping and enabling and I think that sails right over it.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:24 pm to
Ronald Reagan cured the homeless problem in the 80s. They have been outdoors men since then.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:26 pm to
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Seattle has an actual apartment complex, not a shelter, for alcoholics. You can't get in unless you're an alcoholic. There's a fine line between helping and enabling and I think that sails right over it.
p

In Anchorage it's a converted hotel. Hey have individual units. I agree it probably doesn't do much to help
Posted by Cheesy Beaver
Kenna brah
Member since Dec 2014
4424 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:27 pm to
Agreed, the Houston homeless problem is insane. I thought that most of them would've been washed away in Harvey, but they're still here knocking on your windows at any red light you stop at. Can't walk down main st without 20 of them approaching you for a cig or money. Some of them even have the fricking nerve to get pissed at you if you have nothing to give them. If anyone has a solution i would love to hear it
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113945 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:36 pm to
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I don't have an answer to the problem.

Some have accepted the lifestyle.

I have a colleague that found out his wife was acting like she was homeless when he would go offshore for his two week hitch.

He knew she was acting weird when he would leave home so he hired a PI. He thought she was just out fricking around some dude. PI had her on video leaving home dressed in basically rags and parking her vehicle then going out to a homeless camp.

He divorced her.


I have so many questions. Did they have kids?

Did she get half of the shite in the divorce? If so, if she wants to be homeless, what did she do with it?

She had to have some type of mental illness, but what is strange was that she was hiding it from him. She was able to come back to her family life when he came home..

Would you be pissed if you were homeless not because you wanted to be.. And its during the winter and its a really cold night and all the shelters are filled up then all of a sudden one of the homeless people says "frick this! Im going home"..
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20494 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:20 pm to
Yessir. It’s a really good one.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:30 pm to
Round them up and make them trustees at Trump's re-education camps.
Posted by TigerTattle
Out of Town
Member since Sep 2007
6623 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:46 pm to
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the city buy some land on the outskirts, fence it in, and let them just camp there?
Wouldn't that mean the city would be responsible for any accident/ill that happened to one of them there?

Other than transport to another city, I got nothin'.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:49 pm to
I'd put them in ed rosy finches yard
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:50 pm to
Pay for them to.......... attend country music concerts.
Posted by stinkdawg
Savannah, smoking by the gas cans
Member since Aug 2014
4072 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:53 pm to
Pay actual homeless people to beat the shite out of people begging for money at a red light.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 7:11 pm to

The homeless situation is really a dilemma for conservatives.

1) If you accept the fact they need to be in an institution, it means you agree to use tax payer money to shelter and feed them.
Basically welfare with the added expense of mental health specialist.

2) if you don't do anything, you have to accept that the homeless are a symptom of a capitalist system (really any free market system). You simply don't have enough jobs that pay enough to support everyone in the country living by themselves.

As someone ekse posted, this is why Christ said "the poor will be with you always".

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