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re: What is your solution to the homeless problem?
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/6/17 at 4:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The only way you'll solve the problem is build housing and allow the occupants to drink or use.
Exactly. I happened to watch a doc about homeless on Amazon last night. A surprising amount of them were homeless by choice and the majority of them wouldn't stay in shelters because they can't use drugs there. How do you help someone that doesn't want to be helped?
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:02 pm to northshorebamaman
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How do you help someone that doesn't want to be helped?
You don't.
I remember the story a few years back in NYC where the cop bought a homeless guy some shoes because he was barefoot in the winter. It went viral and a few days later someone did a follow up to the story. I believe the guy was shoeless again.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:05 pm to biglego
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In the England of Edward VI, vagrants would be branded and then enslaved. I think that's a start.
Sadly, they would probably be better off.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:13 pm to northshorebamaman
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Exactly. I happened to watch a doc about homeless on Amazon last night. A surprising amount of them were homeless by choice and the majority of them wouldn't stay in shelters because they can't use drugs there. How do you help someone that doesn't want to be helped?
I know both Seattle and Anchorage have housing where the occupants are allowed to drink.
Friend in Seattle got some kind of tax break or funding to build a shelter in her backyard for a homeless person.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Weed legal states need to have huge farms where they are only allowed to smoke weed
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:18 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
Kip Holden's administration (Baton Rouge) used to buy them bus tickets to Atlanta. It really cleaned up downtown.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:20 pm to dewster
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Kip Holden's administration (Baton Rouge) used to buy them bus tickets to Atlanta. It really cleaned up downtown.
Villages around here buy them Ferry tickets to Juneau. Mayor called them out on it.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:20 pm to mtntiger
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Mandatory stay at a mental health facility. That's where 99.9% of the homeless belong.
A friends teenage daughter just tried to kill herself, the family is having trouble finding a facility just for short term treatment as there are no open beds anywhere, exactly where would the homeless be placed?
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I know both Seattle and Anchorage have housing where the occupants are allowed to drink.
Seattle has an actual apartment complex, not a shelter, for alcoholics. You can't get in unless you're an alcoholic. There's a fine line between helping and enabling and I think that sails right over it.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:24 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
Ronald Reagan cured the homeless problem in the 80s. They have been outdoors men since then.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:26 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:p
Seattle has an actual apartment complex, not a shelter, for alcoholics. You can't get in unless you're an alcoholic. There's a fine line between helping and enabling and I think that sails right over it.
In Anchorage it's a converted hotel. Hey have individual units. I agree it probably doesn't do much to help
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:27 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
Agreed, the Houston homeless problem is insane. I thought that most of them would've been washed away in Harvey, but they're still here knocking on your windows at any red light you stop at. Can't walk down main st without 20 of them approaching you for a cig or money. Some of them even have the fricking nerve to get pissed at you if you have nothing to give them. If anyone has a solution i would love to hear it
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:36 pm to TigerFred
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I don't have an answer to the problem.
Some have accepted the lifestyle.
I have a colleague that found out his wife was acting like she was homeless when he would go offshore for his two week hitch.
He knew she was acting weird when he would leave home so he hired a PI. He thought she was just out fricking around some dude. PI had her on video leaving home dressed in basically rags and parking her vehicle then going out to a homeless camp.
He divorced her.
I have so many questions. Did they have kids?
Did she get half of the shite in the divorce? If so, if she wants to be homeless, what did she do with it?
She had to have some type of mental illness, but what is strange was that she was hiding it from him. She was able to come back to her family life when he came home..
Would you be pissed if you were homeless not because you wanted to be.. And its during the winter and its a really cold night and all the shelters are filled up then all of a sudden one of the homeless people says "frick this! Im going home"..
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:20 pm to Funky Tide 8
Yessir. It’s a really good one.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:30 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
Round them up and make them trustees at Trump's re-education camps.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:46 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
quote:Wouldn't that mean the city would be responsible for any accident/ill that happened to one of them there?
the city buy some land on the outskirts, fence it in, and let them just camp there?
Other than transport to another city, I got nothin'.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:49 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
I'd put them in ed rosy finches yard
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:50 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
Pay for them to.......... attend country music concerts.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 6:53 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
Pay actual homeless people to beat the shite out of people begging for money at a red light.
Posted on 10/6/17 at 7:11 pm to TigerinATL
The homeless situation is really a dilemma for conservatives.
1) If you accept the fact they need to be in an institution, it means you agree to use tax payer money to shelter and feed them.
Basically welfare with the added expense of mental health specialist.
2) if you don't do anything, you have to accept that the homeless are a symptom of a capitalist system (really any free market system). You simply don't have enough jobs that pay enough to support everyone in the country living by themselves.
As someone ekse posted, this is why Christ said "the poor will be with you always".
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