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re: What is the difference between engineering school and job?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:39 pm to Tamer of beasts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:39 pm to Tamer of beasts
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Once I enter the field, what can I expect to change?
If you move toward project management you'll have the opportunity spend about 5% of your time engineering only if you like doing engineering. If you don't enjoy actually engineering you can avoid it all together.
The rest of your time will be spent with bid packages, showing jobs, procuring professional services, training, lots of safety BS, plenty of cost reports, lots of estimating, traveling, etc.
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:41 pm to Salmon
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interaction with clients, safety bullshite, other compliance bullshite, "lunch & learns", interacting with other coworkers, spreadsheets, etc
This is a pretty damn good summary. Learn to use Excel very well because you'll be using it forever.
As others have said, most programs have areas to plug in certain data and get a value you're looking for.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:42 pm to MWP
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Why I will never hire one with at least some field experience out on a pipeline job or having done some internships.
You may want to work on your English skills before deciding on hires.
ETA: OP, to answer your question, these two summed it up perfectly IMO:
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interaction with clients, safety bullshite, other compliance bullshite, "lunch & learns", interacting with other coworkers, spreadsheets, etc
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If you move toward project management you'll have the opportunity spend about 5% of your time engineering only if you like doing engineering. If you don't enjoy actually engineering you can avoid it all together.
The rest of your time will be spent with bid packages, showing jobs, procuring professional services, training, lots of safety BS, plenty of cost reports, lots of estimating, traveling, etc.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:42 pm to CptBengal
I know of the ones who have worked for me and had no common sense, work ethic or even thought to themselves, "Hey, this is a professional job, so maybe I should dress like a professional". So now they are back at some college with holes in their jeans and a 5 day old beard living off of taxpayers' money to come up with some study that will have absolutely no value to society.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:43 pm to Buck_Rogers
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I know of the ones who have worked for me and had no common sense, work ethic or even thought to themselves, "Hey, this is a professional job, so maybe I should dress like a professional". So now they are back at some college with holes in their jeans and a 5 day old beard living off of taxpayers' money to come up with some study that will have absolutely no value to society.
What backwoods college professors do you associate with?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:48 pm to Buck_Rogers
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I know of the ones who have worked for me and had no common sense, work ethic or even thought to themselves, "Hey, this is a professional job, so maybe I should dress like a professional". So now they are back at some college with holes in their jeans and a 5 day old beard living off of taxpayers' money to come up with some study that will have absolutely no value to society.
lolz.
Most tenured professors consult and command huge hourly rates.
But keep hiring the kid with an MS teaching at the local CC, clown.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:50 pm to LNCHBOX
Bubba Gump College of Engineering
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:54 pm to CptBengal
Never hired a professor. Only before they decided they'd rather go back for their PhD than keep working.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:56 pm to Buck_Rogers
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Never hired a professor. Only before they decided they'd rather go back for their PhD than keep working.
So you actually have no idea what you're talking about....neat!
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:57 pm to Tamer of beasts
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Once I enter the field, what can I expect to change?
Software that does this shite for you.
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The grinding and all the equations are starting to get to me.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:03 pm to CptBengal
quote:Are you a professor?
So you actually have no idea what you're talking about....neat!
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:04 pm to barry
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Well first of all its not even real engineering its petroleum engineering.
Ain't that the truth. I enjoy it, but it's not engineering. It's some technical understanding and training on specific topics related to O&G. I mean there's no such thing as Pump Engineers or Bridge Engineers. You have Mechanical and Civil engineers who had to learn a lot of stuff and apply it to that specific topic.
To sum up what my 5 years so far have been like, I'm thinking of taking the PE soon. But I'm worried, because I'll have to reteach myself all of the "engineering" material
. In a lot of jobs, you don't use 95% of everything you've learned. Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:06 pm to Tamer of beasts
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Petroleum
How many got jobs last year?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:08 pm to Tamer of beasts
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the key is having the sense to know if what the software is spitting out makes sense or not.
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Learn to use Excel very well because you'll be using it forever.
I'm also in PetE and interning this summer and this is what i've gathered...
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:12 pm to junkfunky
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Never hired a professor. Only before they decided they'd rather go back for their PhD than keep working.
I am a professor and have taught for a number of years while also working my day job. I did it to stay current on professional literature as well as enjoy the interaction with students. I am very close to retiring from my day job, but will continue the gig (LSU system by the way) with college as I enjoy it and limit myself to one course a semester. As for the Ph.D. thing, to be quite candid, you do have to have something on the ball to earn one of those. However, once you have, your consultation rates do go up. The air is a lot rarer at this level, but the pickings are also a lot better.
Are there some bad professors out there? Yes.
Are there a lot of good ones out there? Indeed.
That said, we can't do your learning for you. That's your responsibility.
Just thought you might want to know that before you go to naively blasting us.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:24 pm to damnedoldtigah
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I am a professor and have taught for a number of years while also working my day job.
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Just thought you might want to know that before you go to naively blasting us.
Since you work a real job, you can do, so I wasn't blasting you. My statement was directed towards those who can't do.
ETA: I did not say those who teach, can't do. I said those who can't do, teach. Big difference.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:27 pm to CptBengal
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Most tenured professors consult and command huge hourly rates.
My dad was an professor and made about 7 times consulting what he made from LSU.
The professorship was for benefits and his CV.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:35 pm to Tamer of beasts
I am in the Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering field. I would say 90% of what i do is design work in 2D CAD. I have software to handle the stability calculations and I may need to work out some strength of materials calcs from time to time. I haven't needed a differential equation yet at work thank God That is what computers are for IMO.
That is what computers are for IMO. Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:39 pm to Artie Rome
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My dad was an professor and made about 7 times consulting what he made from LSU.
The professorship was for benefits and his CV.
Shhh, let the civilians think that the professors are "hiding" in academia.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:43 pm to KG6
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In a lot of jobs, you don't use 95% of everything you've learned.
This^
You really only use the basic concepts. The nitty gritty disappears from your brain within the first year of working.
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