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re: War veteran, service dog refused service at Houston-area restaurant
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:54 am to saderade
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:54 am to saderade
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I am pretty sure those dogs can go absolutely anywhere if they are registered as such.
There are a lot of service dogs that are completely unregistered, there is no requirements for service dogs really. It's a very loose system. It's best just to let the people go about their business if you don't want to get sued.
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:55 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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It's against federal and state law to ask a person about their disability -- or to deny someone service because of a service dog. Ole boy will be lucky if he's not sued.
so we're on the honor code and hope someone isn't lying?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:55 am to Dam Guide
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There are a lot of service dogs that are completely unregistered, there is no requirements for service dogs really. It's a very loose system. It's best just to let the people go about their business if you don't want to get sued.
I'm sorry, but this is just total bullshite IMO
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:55 am to Salmon
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How are we supposed to know that it is a service dog?
This.
If the guy doesn't have an obvious physical disability, how are they supposed to know he's not just some random guy bringing his dog into a restaurant?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:56 am to Drank
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I'll choose to believe you honestly aren't informed.
I had no idea this was a "thing". Not sure how I feel about it, basically you can bring your dog with you anywhere if you claim that it's a service dog. That doesn't really sit well with me, especially if I were a business owner.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:56 am to Salmon
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I'm sorry, but this is just total bullshite IMO
I agree, they should at least be able to pass the CGC (Canine Good Citizen) test to prove the dog can handle being in public if not a much more strict test.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:57 am to TH03
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says he was kicked out for an attitude problem. what's the issue?
Probably for "talking back" about having a service dog...
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:57 am to upgrayedd
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This.
If the guy doesn't have an obvious physical disability, how are they supposed to know he's not just some random guy bringing his dog into a restaurant?
Ask him if it is a service dog, if he says yes, that's all you can do legally.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:58 am to Epic Cajun
I love dogs, but I don't really want a dog around me when I'm eating at a restaurant.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:58 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Ole boy will be lucky if he's not sued.
He will be.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:00 pm to lsu fan cw
Here's the link to all the rules:
LINK
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Q: How can I tell if an animal is really a service animal and not just a pet?
A: Some, but not all, service animals wear special collars and harnesses. Some, but not all, are licensed or certified and have identification papers. If you are not certain that an animal is a service animal, you may ask the person who has the animal if it is a service animal required because of a disability. However, an individual who is going to a restaurant or theater is not likely to be carrying documentation of his or her medical condition or disability. Therefore, such documentation generally may not be required as a condition for providing service to an individual accompanied by a service animal. Although a number of states have programs to certify service animals, you may not insist on proof of state certification before permitting the service animal to accompany the person with a disability.
LINK
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:00 pm to Dam Guide
US Service Dog Registry
COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT SERVICE ANIMALS IN PLACES OF BUSINESS
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Under the law it is not required that Service and Assistance Dog teams show or have identification in the form of a vest, special harness, training certificate or registration. Nor is it required that animals are officially trained, certified or registered with any state, federal or independent organization.
COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT SERVICE ANIMALS IN PLACES OF BUSINESS
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Q: How can I tell if an animal is really a service animal and not just a pet?
A: Some, but not all, service animals wear special collars and harnesses. Some, but not all, are licensed or certified and have identification papers. If you are not certain that an animal is a service animal, you may ask the person who has the animal if it is a service animal required because of a disability. However, an individual who is going to a restaurant or theater is not likely to be carrying documentation of his or her medical condition or disability. Therefore, such documentation generally may not be required as a condition for providing service to an individual accompanied by a service animal. Although a number of states have programs to certify service animals, you may not insist on proof of state certification before permitting the service animal to accompany the person with a disability.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:01 pm to Dam Guide
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Ask him if it is a service dog, if he says yes, that's all you can do legally.
Yes, Mr. Manager, this here 1.5 lb Chihuahua is a certified service dog. It helps me with my IBS, now frick off.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:02 pm to lsu fan cw
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How can I tell if an animal is really a service animal and not just a pet?
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Some, but not all, service animals wear special collars and harnesses
And there's NO possible way for someone to just buy one and put it on Rover.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:02 pm to iAmBatman
Service dogs are awesome.
They routinely get "retired" when they are older and are given up for adoption.
I am thinking of adopting them in the future.
They routinely get "retired" when they are older and are given up for adoption.
I am thinking of adopting them in the future.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:03 pm to upgrayedd
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Yes, Mr. Manager, this here 1.5 lb Chihuahua is a certified service dog. It helps me with my IBS, now frick off.
You don't have to tell him it's to help with IBS. He not legally allowed to know that. You just have to tell him it is a service dog, then he has to frick off. There are plenty of people with very small lap dogs that are service animals. Especially mentally ill people. Dogs help people deal and gives them soemthing to care for, it has a lot more pros than the cons of people who just lie about it.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:03 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
under the ADA he will win that lawsuit. Won't even go to court.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:03 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
They bout to get sued. Good. frick them.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:05 pm to lsu fan cw
I trained a dog to be used to children that are scared of dogs. She's a border collie. I had a relative whose seven year old daughter was bit by a pit. My dog, never raised around kids, loves children. My dog calmed her fears about dogs.
So, I worked with her so she would not overwhelm the children with affection when she first meets them. She now has helped about fifteen kids with their dog fears, including some who had been bit.
My dog is incredibly bulletproof when it comes to kids.
So, I worked with her so she would not overwhelm the children with affection when she first meets them. She now has helped about fifteen kids with their dog fears, including some who had been bit.
My dog is incredibly bulletproof when it comes to kids.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:06 pm to TheOcean
This is all kinds of BS.
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