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re: Utah reinstates firing squads for executions.

Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:15 pm to
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Only 1 shooter has a live round.
I thought six of the seven had live rounds and only one had a dummy round.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 11:16 pm
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:19 pm to
I thought it was only one had a blank and all the others were live. Otherwise you run the risk of not killing the guy with only one shot.

Who do they even call to be on the firing squad? Do they have training on the process of it? Imagine being someone getting a call to be on the firing squad.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:26 pm to
I could be back asswards

Eta....wiki says 4 live and 1 blank.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 11:28 pm
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:36 pm to
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That being said, I wish we would make sure the death penalty was for clear cut cases.

Only "clear cut" cases are supposed to be convictions. That's the whole beyond reasonable doubt standard. If juries actually followed that standard, there'd be fewer false convictions. But as it stands, guilty is guilty and there's no tiers of who is guiltier. The only difference in La is it takes 12 jurors to convict for a death penalty instead of the usual 10.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:30 am to
What about for mass murderers and real war criminals?
Posted by Grim
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:36 am to
I thought it was 4 live rounds, 2 blanks, and one super soaker?
Posted by Montezuma
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:40 am to
Climate change. Gotta conserve the water.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:42 am to
Five golden rings, four calling birds, blah...

The guy with the blank probably knows he fired the blank. If you used the same rifle for training and practice as long as they do, you'd know. I'd make a pact with the rest of the squad to not admit to having the blank.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:45 am to
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Who do they even call to be on the firing squad? Do they have training on the process of it? Imagine being someone getting a call to be on the firing squad.


It was volunteer law enforcement officers last time firing squads were legal. No idea how they plan to do it this time.
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:14 am to
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more likely that not this will continue until the death penalty is abolished.


Ehh.. Science and DNA evidence is pretty significant nowadays and a large portion of the exonerate onset were due to modern DNA evidence /practices.

I agree with you that it's not much of a deterrent but I think it should still be on the table when there is a significant amount of DNA evidence.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:00 am to
Death penalty only makes sense to me when there is crazy amounts of evidence and a confession.

A "no doubter" if you will. It would probably be a fraction of death rowers today.

And in those cases, there should be an expedited death process to save the state time and money.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:10 am to
quote:

quote:
That being said, I wish we would make sure the death penalty was for clear cut cases.


I'd rather just do away with it. Pointless if you ask me, I don't see a situation where I get satisfaction or closure from someone else dying.


It's not about that, it's about justice. The most precious thing you can take from someone is their life and the only just punishment for such a crime is that the anyone who does this is they likewise lose their life.
Posted by Superior Pariah
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:11 am to
frick yea, GUNS. I love guns.
Posted by Creamer
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:12 am to
I agree the death penalty has become too costly and prolonged for it to provide any real deterrent effect. Nobody considers the death penalty before committing a crime because they know they will have 20 years of appeals before anything happens. However, this is the only way To insure no one is wrongly executed.

After coming to that conclusion I started reading the stories of the recently executed in Louisiana, and those sick frickers deserve to die.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:19 am to
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It's not about that, it's about justice. The most precious thing you can take from someone is their life and the only just punishment for such a crime is that the anyone who does this is they likewise lose their life.


Eh, when the condemned spend 20+ years on death row before the actual execution, it essentially is life without parole already. Besides, I'd consider something like a supermax prison to be way worse than death.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:21 am to
cool... isn't that what gary gilmore requested?
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:23 am to

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This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 7:35 am
Posted by jbgleason
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:25 am to
quote:

quote:
Only 1 shooter has a live round.


incredible how many people don't know this.


Especially when it isn't true.
Posted by unotiger21
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:29 am to
Yeah I don't think that's true.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:34 am to
yeah, i misread the post. it's opposite. only one has a blank. if i remember correctly,none of them actually know who has the blank?
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