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re: ULL Coach Robichaux discusses "Daddy Ball"
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:31 pm to Jimmy2shoes
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:31 pm to Jimmy2shoes
What kid wants to play baseball and sit the bench all the time.. Having 10-12 kids on a team where a few sit at times is standard but whats the point for a 12 year old to play on a team where he never sees the field in game time..
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:34 pm to TROLA
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whats the point for a 12 year old to play on a team where he never sees the field in game time..
It's an old man way of thinking. To them, being part of a team is all that matters. They forget that it's not 1950 and there are tons of fun things to do instead of sitting on a bench in the summer sun watching other kids play ball.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:36 pm to Jimmy2shoes
I know for a fact his son played "daddy ball"
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:36 pm to MontyFranklyn
I see kids many sitting in "travel ball" that's the only place you can sit. If you playing rec. ball kids have to play.
I do think kids should play more than one sport. Mine is in football, rugby and baseball. To white for basketball.
I do think kids should play more than one sport. Mine is in football, rugby and baseball. To white for basketball.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:36 pm to TROLA
quote:Exactly
whats the point for a 12 year old to play on a team where he never sees the field in game time..
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:38 pm to CHEDBALLZ
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To white for basketball.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:40 pm to goldennugget
Club ball for my son keeps him humble. Playing the best kids in the region seems way better than beating the shite out of the local scrubs in the Rec league.
ETA: my boy plays soccer, where the term Select is rarely used anymore, but it's effectively travel ball since we play tournaments all over the south every other weekend for a couple of seasons per year.
ETA: my boy plays soccer, where the term Select is rarely used anymore, but it's effectively travel ball since we play tournaments all over the south every other weekend for a couple of seasons per year.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:43 pm to MontyFranklyn
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The way you guys complain about youth baseball on here, I'm going to pray that my son is 6'6" and 230 so he can either play football or basketball. I don't I get that lucky though. Being that my wife played college softball that little cs will probably be the next coming of Jeter
Baseball is probably the best youth sport a kid can play. However parents and travel ball have helped ruin it.
I grew up playing in rec leagues and so did pretty much all of my friends and we all enjoyed it. Then slowly some kids had their parents put them on select teams as the concept gained traction, but for the most part everyone I went to school with played in the rec league. Those who went the travel/select ball route either ended up hating baseball and quitting or not playing after high school.
The only one I knew who went the select route who ended up making anything of himself in baseball was Jordan Walden, I was good friends with him growing up, but even then he didn't go the select route until 5th grade. He made it to the majors but lets be real select ball had nothing to do with that, but the fact he could throw 100 MPH did. If you throw that hard it doesn't matter if you played rec league 100% growing up
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:46 pm to goldennugget
I'm only going to allow him to play it while it is in season. He will go from football, to basketball to spring baseball.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:47 pm to Gaston
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Club ball for my son keeps him humble. Playing the best kids in the region seems way better than beating the shite out of the local scrubs in the Rec league.
Keep him more humble or you more humble?
I mean when I played rec league going up the level of competition we played against never once crossed our minds. We knew who was good and who was bad in our league but we could have cared less if we were playing against the best in the region. We just went out there and played against the teams put against us. A mind of a kid doesn't think about shite like level of competition much further than how good the teams in their own league are. As far as we were concerned the teams in our league were the best in the region.
When I was in 4th grade my team the Tigers beat the Cardinals who were undefeated in the league at the time. As far as we knew that Cardinals team was the best little league team to ever step foot on American Soil.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:47 pm to TROLA
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Having 10-12 kids on a team where a few sit at times is standard but whats the point for a 12 year old to play on a team where he never sees the field in game time..
This but maybe if that kid isn't seeing enough playing time then maybe that kid should just play Rec where playing time is mandatory for all players and not play on the more competitive tournament teams where playing time isn't mandatory
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:51 pm to Jimmy2shoes
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Daddy Ball” in his opinion paints an unrealistic picture of how baseball, sports and basically life really works.
Our Jr High football team was like this. One of the parents coached, so their kid and his friends all played and they ended up benching some pretty enthusiastic kids. After one season half the team quit. High school ball subsequently suffered, and only a handful of people in each class ended up playing. The Jr High coach's kid didn't grow as much as he expected and ended up quitting his first year under the High School coach.
At that age, some of the kids are still growing and lack coordination. They are there to have fun and develop. A skinny but enthusiastic player in 7th grade may end up being a really valuable resource in 10th, 11th, and 12th grade.
Baseball and Soccer teams at the school took the opposite approach and actually ended up with big, competitive teams as the players developed. They generated revenue and ended up with a pretty committed team.
I played all three and I can say that football didn't really become fun until Junior year. I had a blast playing Soccer and Baseball. I would have played basketball too if not for the schedule conflicts. One of my teammates that didn't play a single down in 7th and 8th grade ended up playing in college.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:54 pm to bayoubengal225
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I know for a fact his son played "daddy ball"
Many people have kids that play it, and hate it. Problem is there aren't any good alternatives.
There's a lot wrong with travel ball, perhaps the biggest problem it creates are unreal expectations for the parents. They convince themselves that years of doing this will get their son a college scholarship. Many of these kids can't even crack the starting lineup on their high school team, and the parents lose their minds.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:57 pm to member12
My high school baseball coach was an arse
Pretty much all the helicopter parents had relationships with him. So shitty players would make the team over more deserving players just because their parents had a good relationship with the coach. You know the types of parents who would go to the coach and pressure him and say "MY BOY HE PLAYED SELECT ON THIS TEAM AND THAT TEAM AND THIS TEAM FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS AND BOY IS HE GOOD NO WAY YOU CAN NOT TAKE HIM FOR YOUR TEAM" even though the kid was arse in tryouts.
Stacked deck. The coach even tried to implement a rule that you had to play select ball to even tryout for the team, and it got vetoed by the school board since a large percentage of our students came from disadvantaged households who could not afford it.
Pretty much all the helicopter parents had relationships with him. So shitty players would make the team over more deserving players just because their parents had a good relationship with the coach. You know the types of parents who would go to the coach and pressure him and say "MY BOY HE PLAYED SELECT ON THIS TEAM AND THAT TEAM AND THIS TEAM FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS AND BOY IS HE GOOD NO WAY YOU CAN NOT TAKE HIM FOR YOUR TEAM" even though the kid was arse in tryouts.
Stacked deck. The coach even tried to implement a rule that you had to play select ball to even tryout for the team, and it got vetoed by the school board since a large percentage of our students came from disadvantaged households who could not afford it.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:58 pm to Choupique19
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They convince themselves that years of doing this will get their son a college scholarship.
A scholarship that wouldn't even make up for the amount of money spent on that shite anyway.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:58 pm to Choupique19
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There's a lot wrong with travel ball, perhaps the biggest problem it creates are unreal expectations for the parents.
My coworker pushes his kids into travel ball. I think the real ambition there is on the parents side, not the kids.
My dad is a CPA and my mom is a teacher. We are white. The likelihood of me getting an athletic scholarship in anything but baseball is pretty slim. I'm glad they figured that out, because I had so much fun playing sports when I was younger once my dad backed off.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:00 pm to Choupique19
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their son a college scholarship
Even if they did get one, it will be what, 25% max?
I got a 25% academic scholarship, its as if I had nothing. Still had to pay for the other 75% and college isn't cheap these days.
Still funny that I got to play a sport in college despite having a dad who was very hands off, something that 99% kids with a helicopter dad who pushed them very hard could not accomplish.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:02 pm to goldennugget
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The coach even tried to implement a rule that you had to play select ball to even tryout for the team, and it got vetoed by the school board since a large percentage of our students came from disadvantaged households who could not afford it.
That's fricking retarded. Sounds like something my high school football coach would do if they could.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:03 pm to member12
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because I had so much fun playing sports when I was younger once my dad backed off.
Exactly how it was with me
My dad played baseball and football in college and minor league ball so he was successful. But with me he was very hands off. Never pushed me. If I asked him to play catch with me or help me with my pitching or do soft toss in the backyard or take me to the cages or throw the football to me he would do it. But only if I asked.
And I ended up enjoying sports when I grew up. Never viewed it as a chore or obligation. I wanted to get better because I wanted to, not because my dad made me.
A kid having a life outside of sports is important. I played football in the fall, basketball in the winter, baseball in the spring and summer. But having time to be a kid and play outside and ride bikes and get dirty and swim and play video games all of that is still important. If a kid has to do something too much he eventually views it as a chore.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:04 pm to goldennugget
I hope my son starts as a Freshman then quits sometime in his Junior year, of high school, to focus on chicks and getting into some SEC school. frick playing sports in college, too much life to live.
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