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re: Two lifeforms merge in once-in-a-billion-years evolutionary event

Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by Guntoter1
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
1013 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:52 pm to
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Two lifeforms merge in once-in-a-billion-years evolutionary eventby LSUDVM1999


This is total BS
Please explain how DNA of the host organism incorporated the DNA of the assimilated organism and then was able to reproduce with a new genetic code that now included new information..
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6491 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:59 pm to
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What is your why for the creation?

And what sort of being do you reckon?

how exactly does a posi-trac rear-end on a plymouth work?

It just does

I see shite everyday that I can't explain "why".

I doubt we are capable of understanding the reasons why a divine being created the universe.

It would all be gibberish to us if there was a way for it to try to explain.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28705 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:06 pm to
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This is total BS
Please explain how DNA of the host organism incorporated the DNA of the assimilated organism and then was able to reproduce with a new genetic code that now included new information..
Mitochondria divide on their own and have their own DNA. Also horizontal gene transfer.
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175770 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:09 pm to
Im as shocked as anyone
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6491 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

This is total BS
Please explain how DNA of the host organism incorporated the DNA of the assimilated organism and then was able to reproduce with a new genetic code that now included new information..

Haven't researched this case but could be horizontal gene transfer
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62869 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:11 pm to
Oh, ok. Just thought you had considered it and had some interesting or unique ideas on the topic.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90470 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:20 pm to
Opened the thread because it was 6 pages and the topic seemed interesting
Read op and was like damn thats pretty freaking cool
Kept reading to see why this is 6 pages
Oh :facepalm:
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26624 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:34 pm to
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The first occurred about 2.2 billion years ago, when an archaea swallowed a bacterium that became the mitochondria


And the archaea's mom was screaming, "Bobby!!! Don't put that thing in your mouth!!!!"
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80020 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:49 pm to
Wasn't there a John Carpenter film about this?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6491 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:06 pm to
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Please explain how DNA of the host organism incorporated the DNA of the assimilated organism and then was able to reproduce with a new genetic code that now included new information..


If it works the same way as the mitocondria is believed to work, they replicate within their host while the host replicates and have their own separate DNA
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Today, this theory is widely accepted [1]. Mitochondria therefore have their own DNA (mtDNA), circular and double-stranded, closer to a prokaryotic genome than nuclear DNA, with a genetic code slightly different from the universal genetic code found in the nucleus of eukaryotic cells.


quote:

Mitochondria are unusual organelles. They act as the power plants of the cell, are surrounded by two membranes, and have their own genome. They also divide independently of the cell in which they reside, meaning mitochondrial replication is not coupled to cell division.
Posted by First Sergeant1
Enterprise, Alabama
Member since Dec 2018
309 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:27 pm to
Stupid
Posted by TigerZeke62
25 minutes SE of Thibodaux Louzana
Member since Jan 2016
119 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by CSinLC
Member since May 2018
650 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:42 pm to


The things I learn on TD!
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27373 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:01 pm to
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you are gonna go to hell for believing this


If you are right, you'll go for believing youself worthy of casting judgement.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12351 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:12 pm to
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Next up: plants that don't need fertilizer.


Yeah, soybeans and clover, and others. And have been around way longer than humans. I'm surprised that gene splicing hasn't been used to create nitrogen fixing corn, wheat, etc. People in the fertilizer business have worried about that for more than 50 years. Animals and plants are incredibly efficient at manufacturing their own chemicals, in ways that we don't understand yet. Chemicals that normally require high temperatures and pressures are made continuously in the human body. It's probably the next area of expansion for science.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:19 pm to
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that lets them do something that algae, and plants in general, can’t normally do – "fixing" nitrogen straight from the air, and combining it with other elements to create more useful compounds


Fertilizer prices dropping soon
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8620 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:20 pm to
And God so gently placed that little thing right there for a certain reason, and I'm perfectly fine with it.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27895 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:30 pm to
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The first occurred about 2.2 billion years ago, when an archaea swallowed a bacterium that became the mitochondria.

Anyone who believes this is anything more than a wild, speculative guess, is a gullible doofus. And likely related to Gomer from Mount Pilot, N.C.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51898 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:31 pm to
They aren’t using the nitrogen for energy. They still use solar energy to convert co2 to sugar.

It’s just that nitrogen is a critical part of many biological compounds but only relatively few organisms can introduce it into a biological system.

What it means by “fixing” is being able to take elemental gaseous nitrogen and put it in something bio available. This happens in the soil by bacteria mostly (sometimes in symbiosis with specific plants). Plants use it, and things that eat plants take it up, and so on.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50391 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 8:50 pm to
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Anyone who believes this is anything more than a wild, speculative guess, is a gullible doofus.


Yep. They don't have the first clue how old the world is and the methods they use to age it are complete junk they can't replicate within any reasonably certain range.
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