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re: Two lifeforms merge in once-in-a-billion-years evolutionary event
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:34 am to Korkstand
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:34 am to Korkstand
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As mentioned above (and in the article), "just happened to catch it" means someone bothered to look closely enough at them at some point in the last 100 million years.
I hope you aren' trying to reason with him. He just finally recovered from screeching at the firmament during the eclipse and consoling himself in flat earth subs. Now he has some fresh material to terrorize his poor family members with at the next get together.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 10:37 am
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:36 am to RedHawk
quote:not into statistics are you......
And we have 1,000 year floods every decade.
a 1000 year flood isnt a flood that happens every 1000 years.
Its a flood that has a 1 in 1000 chance of happening that year. it has a 1 in 1000 chance of happening next year to...
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:37 am to WaydownSouth
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Is this supposed to make me believe humans and octopus' came from the same singular cell billions of years ago.
Obviously. (Unless you're one of those Creationist nuts who believes in some "Almighty Omnipotent God" sky-daddy who created everything out of thin air.)
The Science proves Octopi and Humans have evolved from their own unique ancient species of messy primordial soup billions of years ago. Braarudosphaera bigelowii is our "cousin" so to speak.
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One of us just evolved to walk and one of us evolved to have 8 tentacles and lives in the sea?
Dats right. Exactly. Ancient relations of Braarudosphaera bigelowii passed down both Octopi 8-legs and tentacles suction cups AND 2-legged human DNA
The Science AND History prove all this in principle in the article.
Once upon a time 4.4 B years ago Braarudosphaera bigelowii algae-soup organisms first passed down their DNA to other consenting algae. THEN we are told, "primary endosymbiosis is thought to have only happened twice that we know of, and each time was a massive breakthrough for evolution. The first occurred about 2.2 billion years ago."
"The second time happened about 1.6 billion years ago, when some of these more advanced cells absorbed cyanobacteria that could harvest energy from sunlight."
Evolution takes time. Fortunately Science can adjust the Time Line as need be, and 4.4 billions years seems be enough time.
Scientism Rules!!
May The Force be with you.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:38 am to Darth_Vader
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If the theory of evolution is true, and this type of giant leap has only happened twice, and even then it just resulted in plants, how did we go from this….
It's only happened twice that we know about. And 4 billion years is a LOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGGGGG time.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:40 am to MeridianDog
quote:you are gonna go to hell for believing this
evolutionary event
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:47 am to LSUDVM1999
What a time to be alive.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:47 am to LSUDVM1999
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One possible benefit is that it could give scientists a new avenue to incorporate nitrogen-fixing into plants to grow better crops.
Back in the late '80s I was a student worker in the Soil Microbiology Dept in the Ag building. Dr. Breitenbeck was doing this research with soybean plants to produce a better soybean yield with less fertilizer via a genetically engineered rhizobia to fix more atmospheric nitrogen that the plant can metabolize. It was a good experience.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:55 am to AwgustaDawg
There is a lot to the story and I’m not typing it all.
The guy was atheist most of his life and actually started what he did to prove God did not exist.
After months of research in a variety of avenues and then working through truly challenging God’s existence he became a believer. Much like Saul’s conversion this dude cannot be convinced there isn’t a higher power. It actually is a great story and testimony.
I know enough high level math to track what he was saying it definitely wasn’t snake oil.
I did enjoy it because somewhat like my own faith journey it just started with an open question - could there really be a God?
The guy was atheist most of his life and actually started what he did to prove God did not exist.
After months of research in a variety of avenues and then working through truly challenging God’s existence he became a believer. Much like Saul’s conversion this dude cannot be convinced there isn’t a higher power. It actually is a great story and testimony.
I know enough high level math to track what he was saying it definitely wasn’t snake oil.
I did enjoy it because somewhat like my own faith journey it just started with an open question - could there really be a God?
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:57 am to LSUDVM1999
Everything eventually evolves into a crab.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:59 am to CarRamrod
Yeah, they're called legumes. Although, I think they use bacteria inhabiting their root systems to fix nitrogen.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:00 am to LSUDVM1999
GOD DID THAT NOT SCIENCE
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:00 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Interesting you choose the octopus, the one organism on Earth we know for certain is an alien, to relate to humans
I think that’s his point
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:01 am to 9Fiddy
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So let me try to understand this like a 5 year old. They are saying the last time this supposedly happened was 1.6 billion years ago. How in the hell do they know this?
Trust your initial inclination and gut. They don't know. Can't know. It's impossible. Along with absurd claims and ridiculous timelines.
Science is using its previous incantation as a "respected authority" by taking its usual stab at the "Power of Suggestion". The only way un-provable / unproven "Science news" like this (theory / wish-casting) can be believed at face value is through Mental Alchemy.
Mental Alchemy requires oft-repeated claims via steady indoctrination and mind control of "authoritahs". With some, this technique hardens into Official Dogma. All authoritahs advance the impossible-to-prove suppositions via REPETITION -- working exactly like all Spells.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:03 am to Celery
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I’m not sure why, but this sentence terrifies me on some weird existential level, as if some alien organism could use me as its internal organ.
You know anglerfish, right? The ugly, deep sea fish that gave me nightmares as a kid? The female has the lamp post hanging off the top of her head. The male is a fraction of her size and spends his early life just wandering around in the endless darkness of the deep ocean looking for the sexy glow from that lamp post. He eventually finds her, nuzzles up nice and close, and gets comfortable. Over time he fuses to the female. As time goes on, the female eventually absorbs him. He's still alive, as a being, he's just inside of her. She doesn't need him for conversation under lamp post light, and it is pretty easy to get lost in the dark, so she just absorbs him so that he is always with her.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 11:10 am
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:05 am to WWII Collector
quote:Yes it does. He spoke it into existence. In the beginning was the Word. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
When the Bible says: "God created the Heavens and the Earth." It didnt explain how he did it.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:09 am to AllbyMyRelf
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When the Bible says: "God created the Heavens and the Earth." It didnt explain how he did it.
Yes it does. He spoke it into existence. In the beginning was the Word. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Its kinda weird that when he spoke everything into existence he didn't leave the book with all he wanted to us to know as part of everything.
He had to wait for us to invent writing and then tell a human what to write.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:18 am to Darth_Vader
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If the theory of evolution is true, and this type of giant leap has only happened twice, and even then it just resulted in plants, how did we go from this (photo, single cell blob)….
...to THIS (photo, gazillion-cell / process human body with Spirit and Soul)
Once upon a time....Billions and Billions of years ago (13.7 to be exact )
Universe was preggo. It birthed Magic Gasses which EXPLODED it's fluids chaotically into an infinite Organized Mess ---> All Organic Compositions ---> Self-Assembled into Compounds ---> Lightning Spark ---> Do a little dance. Make a little love. Get down tonight! Get down tonight! = Self-Assembled into the First Braarudosphaera bigelowii's "Adam & Eve" --->
---> Octopi ---> Human =
"E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N"!!
("God-THE-Creator"?? Stop believing in Myths!)
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:02 pm to LSUDVM1999
That's our replacement species. The end is nigh!
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:06 pm to Celery
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as if some alien organism could use me as its internal organ.
Hope you're not bald. Guess where those guys are going.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:16 pm to SWCBonfire
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Yeah, they're called legumes. Although, I think they use bacteria inhabiting their root systems to fix nitrogen.
If I recall from my college microbiology days these bacteria are provided an environment by the plant to survive and the bacteria fix atmospheric nitrogen for the plants nutrients. This is an endosymbiotic relationship as opposed to an ectosymbiotic relationship. A very common example of ectosymbiosis are mistletoe growing in trees or remora fish hanging out with sharks.
What is unique about this ectosymbiotic relationship is that when the host algae divides via reproduction so does the internal bacterium acting as an eukaryotic organelle. At least that is my understanding of the key finding from the article.
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