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re: Tropical Storm Colin - Earliest 3rd Storm on Record

Posted on 6/3/16 at 8:14 am to
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 8:14 am to
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Not looking good for Tampa


Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 3:21 pm to
First round of models runs out at 18z:

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 4:02 pm to
Invest 93-L, ladies and gentlemen

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 9:39 am to
NHC is giving this a high chance of becoming Colin, would be 3rd earliest system on record. This appears to be a pretty classic MJO driving early season development. As the MJO moves through the region upper level divergence is enhanced (blue areas below).



This also flips the easterly low level winds and allows westerly anomalies to increase. This helps to deevelop a broad area low level cyclonic vorticity across the area.



Typically this type of setup produces a high shear environment across the Gulf of Mexico, we end up with lopsided storms, and Colin will probably look at lot like past systems.



Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 9:42 am to
De-Mobing non essentials as we speak, baws
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

There goes snapper season


Don't worry the Feds said the limit was reached before the season even started.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:22 pm to
What about dry air?
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:48 pm to
Has Martin got the stick out yet ?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 2:50 pm to
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The curve off the West Coast is the raging +PDO and the curve in the Atlantic shows the potentially developing -AMO. Another early test for the models is on the table.



Speak English Doc, we ain't rocket scientists.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 3:09 pm to
What are the latest maps saying?
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 8:58 am to
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The curve off the West Coast is the raging +PDO and the curve in the Atlantic shows the potentially developing -AMO. Another early test for the models is on the table.


Speak English Doc, we ain't rocket scientists.


Like ENSO (La Nina & El Nino (which are spanish for The Nina and The Nino) the PDO and AMO are indices used to describe the spacial SSTs distributions across the Atlantic (AMO) and Pacific (PDO). Simple put, negative phase is cold and positive phase is warm.

The PDO has been in record warm territory lately but was just in an extended negative phase. We have been in an extended -PDO/+AMO combo and that was a major player in driving the widespread Western drought from Texas to California. As anyone that lives in Texas knows, the drought switch got flipped to "Flood" as the PDO flipped to positive.

The +AMO phase is often times associated with active Atlantic hurricane seasons but there are signs that the AMO is in the process of flipping negative (there is a good bit of debate on this topic). It appears that we have been moving out of an active Atlantic hurricane period and towards an inactive period and the AMO flipping could be a driver for that.

A +PDO/-AMO setup could be very good for American (MAGA?). Research suggest that this combo could produce less drought and less hurricanes.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 9:02 am to
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What are the latest maps saying?


They show low level wind direction and anomalies. The area around Central America is what is of interest for this system. It has been shown that easterlies (blue) in that area are unfavorable for development and westerlies (red) are favorable.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 9:24 am to
The models have slowly been shifting 93L NW as they struggle with how to handle the decaying ULL that has been drifting around Texas the last few days. The 00z Euro gets it pretty near the Panhandle before shunting it off to the NE. This is probably about as far NW as this system can get given the current setup. A system moving from SW to NE off the Louisiana coast could actually ensure that we have some decent baseball weather after today



The 06z HWRF moves it into the Big Bend of Florida as a TS and then strengthens it to the 2nd hurricane of the season out over the Atlantic.




This post was edited on 6/5/16 at 9:25 am
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 9:28 am to
Upgrade to TD3 coming shortly.
Posted by MikeTh3Tiger
Mandeville, La
Member since May 2013
289 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 9:31 am to
So what do the major Deepwater O&G producers do in this situation? Evac non-essential personnel? Even when it looks to be steering East of the facility...
This post was edited on 6/5/16 at 9:34 am
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/5/16 at 9:34 am to
I didn't think they'd upgrade it until it crossed over the yucatan... but looking at the last few hours on satellite they really have to at this point. convection is clearly starting to rotate.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/5/16 at 9:56 am to
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So what do the major Deepwater O&G producers do in this situation


Is anybody left out there? I thought everyone had been layed off?
This post was edited on 6/5/16 at 9:57 am
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 10:01 am to
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I didn't think they'd upgrade it until it crossed over the yucatan... but looking at the last few hours on satellite they really have to at this point. convection is clearly starting to rotate.


Yea, probably didn't want to do the straight to TS with recon this afternoon. Also, this allows TS warnings to be issued now but next season they can issue before formation.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
31941 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 10:23 am to
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So what do the major Deepwater O&G producers do in this situation? Evac non-essential personnel? Even when it looks to be steering East of the facility...



Started unloading some of our non essentials yesterday. We are already completely tied down and have everything ready to go.

We've been watching it for about 5 days now
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 6/5/16 at 10:23 am to
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Also, this allows TS warnings to be issued now but next season they can issue before formation.
ah yeah good call. I didn't even think about that.

just looking at the presentation, the hurricane hunters will probably find 34kts and upgrade it again
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