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Those Poor Ole Automakers are facing huge problems.

Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:34 am
Oh cry me a river!

Hopefully the bottom falls out and they start making more affordable vehicles. The large pickup truck market had gotten ridiculous with base pricing of $45-55K now days. Now instead of lowering prices they are jacked up, and financed for 7 years.

The last new truck I purchased was a 2007 Chevy Silverado (Classic)Ext cab Z71. With trade-in, and rebates I financed $22,500 for 60 months.

I can't wait for all those 2021 model to finally hit the lots in 2023. Maybe then some real deals can be found.

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Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:37 am to
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Hopefully the bottom falls out and they start making more affordable vehicles.


Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37657 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:37 am to
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Industry experts say automakers are having trouble getting all manner of parts and raw materials for a variety of reasons, including Covid-related plant shutdowns by suppliers, logistical problems involving shortages of ships, shipping containers and truck drivers, and difficulty that some suppliers are having filling jobs.


But we shouldn’t have focused on revamping American raw material and base supply manufacturing nor should we try to invest in Mexico. Nope, we should rely on and invest in China and SE Asia.

As for prices being so high, I wonder what the interest rate remaining near zero has done for the market. If the rate was >5% would
Prices be lower so more would finance?
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 11:39 am
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:38 am to
When your government requires add-ons like backup cameras and fuel mileage minimums, who do you think pays for it?
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 11:40 am
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9781 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:38 am to
Mother fricker, you could've at least warned me that it was a CNN rag, then I wouldn't have bothered at clicking on it.

The UAW is what has fricked up the auto industry, not the makers themselves.
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:40 am to
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financed $22,500 for 60 months.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55246 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:40 am to
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Hopefully the bottom falls out and they start making more affordable vehicles. The large pickup truck market had gotten ridiculous with base pricing of $45-55K now days. Now instead of lowering prices they are jacked up, and financed for 7 years.

It won't change until people stop paying it.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7649 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:43 am to
There is a way to make vehicles cheaper. No automatic windows, no leather seats, no Bose 8 speaker audio system, etc… Would you buy one?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:45 am to
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The large pickup truck market had gotten ridiculous with base pricing of $45-55K now days.


People are willing to pay it

You can thank dumb people who have no idea how interest works

All they care about is the monthly note
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4170 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:45 am to
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There is a way to make vehicles cheaper. No automatic windows, no leather seats, no Bose 8 speaker audio system, etc… Would you buy one?

Hell Yes. Make it a standard too.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71713 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:46 am to
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No automatic windows


I actually like this better.

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no leather seats


Cloth seats are better in the Deep South.

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no Bose 8 speaker audio system


Not worth the extra money.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:46 am to
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. The large pickup truck market had gotten ridiculous with base pricing of $45-55K now days.


You know you can get a pickup with out all the options...
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14351 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:46 am to
One of the reasons there are chip issues is because of the “just in time” inventory method used by Japanese manufacturers. JIT is used, ironically, to reduce costs.

Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17163 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:48 am to
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Those Poor Ole Automakers are facing huge problems.



I also saw that the average age of vehicles on the road has climbed from 9years to 12 years

However new vehicle sales are still setting alltime highs

CNBC Youtube segment
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:48 am to
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There is a way to make vehicles cheaper. No automatic windows, no leather seats, no Bose 8 speaker audio system, etc… Would you buy one?


does it still have safety features? does it still have an AC? does it still have some scaled down version of a radio/bluetooth speaker? will it get me 250k miles?

if yes, i’m in.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37657 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:48 am to
JIT works during normal times.

California port authorities and foreign governments shutting factories down are making sure these are not normal times.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:49 am to
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People are willing to pay it

You can thank dumb people who have no idea how interest works

All they care about is the monthly note



That and the amount of people that feel obligated to purchase a new car/truck every 4-5 years. Most cars today are engineered to go 200k miles with regular maintenance, but so many Americans view their cars as status symbols and they have to keep up with the Jones's.

There's a thread on here at least once a week asking about new truck because their 2015 is "getting long in the tooth." Anything wrong with it? No, just looks dated.
Posted by commode
North Shore
Member since Dec 2012
1155 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:50 am to
Yes, as long as it has A/C and a stereo. I come from the mindset of it is a truck and will be used like a truck. Keep all the fancy stuff for the soccer moms in the Tahoe. Yes it is nice to ride in a fancy truck, but screw these asking prices.
Posted by DBAG DREW
Member since Feb 2018
138 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:51 am to
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There is a way to make vehicles cheaper. No automatic windows, no leather seats, no Bose 8 speaker audio system, etc… Would you buy one?


I would absolutely buy something like a late 80s Toyota SR5 with manual everything if Toyota decided to remake it and sell at the same price (adjusted for inflation).
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19507 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 11:53 am to
As long as Dementia Joe is in charge nothing is going down
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