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re: thinking about going back to school for geology. any advice or job outlook
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:45 am to ScarletFire
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:45 am to ScarletFire
I agree academia is a great career, but not for everyone. Reading 62 papers on Chicxulub to formulate my own opinion would put me on suicide watch.
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:56 am to thegreatboudini
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I agree academia is a great career, but not for everyone
That's for sure. Also, Number of PhD's far outweighs the number of faculty positions. To get tenure is unlikely nowadays. Master's is more hire-able.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:57 am to Rust Cohle
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In medical sales you can make 100-150 in the right job. I can't imagine a geologist making half of that. Maybe you can work part time as a sales rep to fund a geology hobby.
You're very uninformed on what geologists make.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:10 am to tigerinhogcountry
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i've recently realized that i really dont like what i do as a sales rep. for a medical company, and ive always like geology. im 33 and thinking about going back to school for geology. any suggestions or insight? what's the market like for geology grads, and what should i expect entering the workforce as a entry level grad at 36-37?
As a O/G geologist, the times are obviously very tough right now. I've been fortunate enough to keep working but know lots of people that have been forced out. But, there will eventually be a high demand again.
To get hired in O/G: go to an O/G school (UT, TAMU, CSM, OU, LSU), get a Master's degree (preferably related to O/G), have high GPA, do Imperial Barrel Award competition, have 1 or more internships and knock your project out of the park - get these at job fairs (at your school and AAPG-SEG Student Expo, Rocky Mountain Rendezvous) & develop presentation skills.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:13 am to abitabrewed4LSU
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To get hired in O/G: go to an O/G school (UT, TAMU, CSM, OU, LSU), get a Master's degree (preferably related to O/G), have high GPA, do Imperial Barrel Award competition, have 1 or more internships and knock your project out of the park - get these at job fairs (at your school and AAPG-SEG Student Expo, Rocky Mountain Rendezvous) & develop presentation skills.
And even with doing ALL of this, it's still tough as hell.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:19 am to tigerinhogcountry
I've actually thought about doing this as well. Do certain schools offer a post-bacc program to fulfill the undergrad requirements for grad school or would a person just take the classes necessary as a non-degree student? Are the two undergrad years basically the equivalent of getting a major in geology?
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:25 am to DosManos
Basically you'd enroll as an undergrad, take all undergrad requirements then apply for grad school. There would be an extra semester or two to completely fuflfill the Bachelors requirements and actually acquire the degree.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:32 am to thegreatboudini
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And even with doing ALL of this, it's still tough as hell.
Very true. I've seen great candidates not get hired. You have to be top notch nowadays to get hired with no experience.
But, things will eventually improve because the senior people that are left will eventually retire. Us mid career people are not very many. We are supposed to fill their void but not likely. The early career people are also not very many. We could be begging for people in a few years.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:43 am to abitabrewed4LSU
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As a O/G geologist, the times are obviously very tough right now. I've been fortunate enough to keep working but know lots of people that have been forced out. But, there will eventually be a high demand again.
To get hired in O/G: go to an O/G school (UT, TAMU, CSM, OU, LSU), get a Master's degree (preferably related to O/G), have high GPA, do Imperial Barrel Award competition, have 1 or more internships and knock your project out of the park - get these at job fairs (at your school and AAPG-SEG Student Expo, Rocky Mountain Rendezvous) & develop presentation skills.
All of this. Also a petroleum geologist here. Only get a masters. PhD is a waste unless you want to be a professor, do research or be specialized.
Times are very tough right now. I work for a major and we are letting good people go and not hiring at the moment. But that doesn't mean things won't be turned around by the time your done.
And yes as others have said geologist in o&g make very very good money $100-$200k if you can get hired on.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:45 am to tigerinhogcountry
What don't you like about med sales? That's generally a tough gig to get so I would assume you had to work your way to where you are now. What happened between the beginning of that journey and now?
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:47 am to abitabrewed4LSU
Got an email address?
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:00 am to tigerinhogcountry
Dude, geologists make the bedrock
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:16 am to abitabrewed4LSU
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As a O/G geologist
Shouldn't that be an instead of a?
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:26 am to Cdawg
I gave you a thumbs up because everyone loves internet grammar police.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 10:33 am to thegreatboudini
<-- @ gmail.com
Posted on 11/11/16 at 11:01 am to tigerinhogcountry
do you like to lick rocks
Posted on 11/11/16 at 12:07 pm to jeff5891
Agreed.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 12:43 pm to abitabrewed4LSU
YGM
Posted on 11/11/16 at 12:53 pm to tigerinhogcountry
My buddy is a geologist and works for the Federal govt. Sweet gig. He actually gets paid well and has a lot of time off what with all the federal and state holidays. Plus, I don't think he can get fired
Posted on 11/11/16 at 12:55 pm to thegreatboudini
Needs a half summer free for field camp.
Many of the classes you need for field camp dont cycle on a yearly basis, but every other year. So you may get out of undergrad in 2 years. But coenlisting in grad school classes while undergrad (4000) is a good idea.
Many of the classes you need for field camp dont cycle on a yearly basis, but every other year. So you may get out of undergrad in 2 years. But coenlisting in grad school classes while undergrad (4000) is a good idea.
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