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re: The plus-sized Swimsuit Model and Ironing

Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:04 pm to
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wait
Meant to say "skinny", not the "ier" part, i'll edit.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:04 pm to
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and?

Does muscle definition not have anything to do with being in shape?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:07 pm to
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So SFP's message is unless you're perfect, don't be happy with who you are?

i believe we find happiness in getting as close to perfection as possible

think zen and the 8-fold path

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Her message is being happy with who you are and all of your imperfections

we're not talking about being born with a disability and learning to become happy

we're talking about making poor choices and demanding that the results of such behavior be recognized as good (and normal)

that is a major problem and i completely reject such a philosophy. i don't believe in rewarding making poor decisions

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If she were 600lbs you may have a point

she's now the symbol of success for all those 600 lb women who believe that they are normal and their choices aren't bad
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:08 pm to
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Does muscle definition not have anything to do with being in shape?

if you're an athlete maybe, but we're talking about models
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:08 pm to
The ironing is not lost on me.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:10 pm to
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There's no way she could ever achieve the typical "model" figure.


this is just silliness. Show me one fat skeleton.

The issue isn't what she could be or is. It's just if she's comfortable with how she looks. If she is, then great. Doesn't mean you to be attracted to her or by the same measure shame her if you aren't.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:10 pm to
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i believe we find happiness in getting as close to perfection as possible

So you're saying she's lying about her happiness? Or that only in shape people can be happy with their lives?

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we're talking about making poor choices and demanding that the results of such behavior be recognized as good (and normal)

that is a major problem and i completely reject such a philosophy. i don't believe in rewarding making poor decisions

Do you give 100% max effort/never post on TD at your job? When you don't, do you donate a portion of your salary back? I think you may be self-employed, but I'm guessing you've worked for someone at some point, same thing applies.

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she's now the symbol of success for all those 600 lb women who believe that they are normal and their choices aren't bad

or is she the symbol for success for girls who look more like her but have always hated their body, and maybe some of them can feel a little better about themselves going forward?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:11 pm to
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if you're an athlete maybe, but we're talking about models

We were actually talking about being in shape, that specific sidebar.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:12 pm to
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Doesn't mean you to be attracted to her or by the same measure shame her if you aren't.

well let me also reiterate

she's a model

her industry is being judged by her aesthetics

on a secondary note, she's become the face of the fat acceptance movement and that will only grow larger (pun intended)
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:12 pm to
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he issue isn't what she could be or is. It's just if she's comfortable with how she looks. If she is, then great.
Such a simple concept.

Gotta wonder why some folks will shite on anything and whether they're just projecting their own insecurities over their unhappiness by coming down on her for being happy knowing she's not perfect.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:13 pm to
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her industry is being judged by her aesthetics

She's doing a heck of a job in her industry.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:14 pm to
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if you're an athlete maybe, but we're talking about models

By either standard, this chick's legs are I better shape than KU's
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24466 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:15 pm to
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This chick could never be skinny.



why do people say this?

Weight is simply calories. If she ate 1000 calories a day she'd be rail thin inside a year. By no means does that mean she should be or would enjoy the process or the results but it is possible.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:15 pm to
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yes with lots of help from SJWs

Quick wiki search, she was discovered at age 12. Not sure if it's been since that time, but apparently she's been a successful plus size model for probably 10 years, so...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:15 pm to
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So you're saying she's lying about her happiness?

i think her body fat % confirms that fact

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Or that only in shape people can be happy with their lives?

they can only find the most surface level, pavlovian sensory stimulation that they believe to be happiness

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Do you give 100% max effort/never post on TD at your job?

i work for myself so any post i make is "on the job"

and i'm not happy (nor am i in shape)

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I think you may be self-employed, but I'm guessing you've worked for someone at some point, same thing applies.

when i was employed, i was given tasks with deadlines. how i finish those tasks was up to me, and anything else didn't matter as long as i hit my deadlines

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or is she the symbol for success for girls who look more like her but have always hated their body, and maybe some of them can feel a little better about themselves going forward?

same thing
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:16 pm to
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why do people say this?

Weight is simply calories. If she ate 1000 calories a day she'd be rail thin inside a year. By no means does that mean she should be or would enjoy the process or the results but it is possible.
I reject the notion that Herman Johnson, the biggest baby ever born in Louisiana, could be skinny!!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:18 pm to
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i think her body fat % confirms that fact

It confirms that her entire life is an unhappy one? WTF are you talking about?

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they can only find the most surface level, pavlovian sensory stimulation that they believe to be happiness

I'm totally happy with my life, certainly not in the best shape I've ever been in. In fact, my life happiness has had an inverse relationship to how happy I am. Guess I'm just lying to myself?

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when i was employed, i was given tasks with deadlines. how i finish those tasks was up to me, and anything else didn't matter as long as i hit my deadlines

So if you finished a task a week ahead of time, you sat around and did nothing for a week? OR were you then given another task that had you not posted on TD for, you coulda gotten said task a week earlier and thus got more work done?
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
24466 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:20 pm to
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on a secondary note, she's become the face of the fat acceptance movement and that will only grow larger (pun intended)



who gives a shite?

People who have body dysmorphia in any direction will never be satisfied no matter what the general consensus is about them personally or people their size in general.

Guaranteed there are many women her size who see this as empowering but will still wish to be instagram model size.

We don't have to be attracted to her. We don't have to give a shite at all honestly. None of us do. But if it makes one person feel more comfortable with themselves, then great.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:21 pm to
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why do people say this?

Because in this case, it's true
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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422585 posts
Posted on 2/14/16 at 3:21 pm to
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So if you finished a task a week ahead of time, you sat around and did nothing for a week?

theoretically was possible but i spaced out work, like i do now, to keep me engaged most days

i never took vacations or anything, either and i only got 17 days off (that includes 6 weekend days, so 11 work days) to study for the bar
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