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re: The Oregonian girl who was going to commit suicide because of her illness...
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:16 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:16 am to RollTide1987
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Committing murder is a mortal sin, but is forgivable if one is truly sorry and confesses. Committing suicide is murder, but the problem is that you are killing yourself and thus have no means to confess your sins once you are dead. You die having completely turned your back on God. There is no alternative. As I said...I will be praying for her soul. Perhaps it will be granted mercy.
So if someone like Hitler had confessed in his last seconds and been executed he would have gone to heaven. But....this poor woman that had brain cancer and wanted to end the suffering she and her loved ones endured every single day, with certain death only days away, ended her own life she would go straight to hell according to your retard religion/church? If you really believe that and you WILLINGLY choose to follow an a-hole God/church, who isn't even real BTW, you are a sadistic frick. You would be 100,000,000x more evil than this girl but according to you heaven would be your destination while she spends ETERNITY burning in fire no matter how good of a person she was until her last seconds. You probably should REALLY spend some time thinking about that. I mean...just think about it for a few minutes with zero distractions and then go and take a LONG look in the mirror and ask yourself if that is who you want to be in life.
ETA: PLEASE be trolling
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 2:20 am
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:25 am to lsu480
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So if someone like Hitler had confessed in his last seconds and been executed he would have gone to heaven.
If Hitler had confessed his sins to God and had been truly and sincerely sorry concerning all the things he had done then yes, he would have eventually been granted admission into Heaven.
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But....this poor woman that had brain cancer and wanted to end the suffering she and her loved ones endured every single day, with certain death only days away, ended her own life she would go straight to hell according to your retard religion/church?
Suicide is a mortal sin that you can't confess because you are already dead. If she was in a sane state of mind when she planned and executed this euthanasia procedure then she is 100% guilty of mortal sin. And since she is now dead she has no way to confess it. Now I obviously can't say with 100% certainty where her soul has ended up. However, I will be praying for her soul in the hopes that God grants it mercy.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:30 am to lsu480
He damns her to hell then quotes the Catechism to prove she's already roasting. Wonder if the Catechism says anything about that.
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2282 If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law. Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.
2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:32 am to lsu480
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lsu480
I used to believe this way when I was younger. Many churches still teach it. I now, however, teach my youth group that God's grace is sufficient, and he is the one judging us.
If someone lied to the SS in Germany in 1939 about having Jews in their home. Is that a sin? Technically yes, but is God going to count that as a sin in their "ledger"? Absolutely not. Same rule of grace applies in a situation like this imo. If she was a believer that is. People like to get hung up on legalism because it is easy to define and live by. The Bible says all that is required is the "faith of a mustard seed". If you live long enough this faith leads you to change your lifestyle, if not, God's grace is sufficient.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 3:46 am to VaBamaMan
Religion is manmade bullshite. Humans waste so much time with it. There is an underlying spiritual impulse that flows through every living thing in the universe. Religion is ancient man's attempt to describe that impulse. You are only a Christian because of where you were born geographicaly. If you had been born in India you would be Buddhist. Saudi Arabia-Muslim etc. You only believe what you believe because you were conditioned to believe it when you were a child.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 4:30 am to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
Lunatic
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:07 am to drunkenpunkin
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Cutting life short is like cheating. You're not giving or receiving all that you are supposed to
SHE WAS DYING. How much was left for her. She obviously didn't want to spend her last days in misery. She advanced the inevitable. It was a brave decision, she took control of a siyuation that was otherwise out of her hands.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:12 am to RollTide1987
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I know she was in pain but suicide is suicide. She can't repent and will spend eternity outside of God's grace.
This is what makes me hate religion. Do you think god was looking down saying suffer bitch. Absolutely now. He was just welcoming her earlier.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:37 am to RollTide1987
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And we now have no idea the pain her soul will receive in Hell. I know she was in pain but suicide is suicide. She can't repent and will spend eternity outside of God's grace.
Give it a rest, whack job.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:08 am to Rickety Cricket
There is no dignity in the way she died. The way she did it is her prerogative but I personally do not agree with it. I've worked closely with people who have cancer and who have died with cancer. They fought like hell and every one of them knew the consequences of their disease. Does the end result suck? Yes it does but there is beauty in the fight.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:10 am to Buck Magnum
She sould fight a worthless fight?
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:12 am to LSURussian
Good for her. This shite should be legal in every state.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:13 am to HoustonChick86
You never know. I have seen some people who have been given x number of years live way longer than what they were told. Doctors are good but not perfect. I would rather fight than quit.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:16 am to Rickety Cricket
In that dracula movie with brad pitt, didn't he kill himself and that's why he became a vampire?
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:17 am to Buck Magnum
But why does it matter that some do live. Others dont. She made her decision and it should be supported
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:19 am to HoustonChick86
She shouldn't be ridiculed, her decision doesn't have to be supported though.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:21 am to RollTide1987
So me telling an old man in a robe, who touches little boys, that I'm sorry for doing something bad automatically cleanses me of all sins?
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:22 am to HoustonChick86
I have my opinion and I you read in my op I think it is her prerogative. I don't think she deserves the Nobel Prize for killing herself.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:29 am to Buck Magnum
I am not saying she deserves a Nobel prize.
Would your opinion change if this was an older man/woman? Let us say 70ish.
Would your opinion change if this was an older man/woman? Let us say 70ish.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:38 am to Buck Magnum
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You never know. I have seen some people who have been given x number of years live way longer than what they were told. Doctors are good but not perfect. I would rather fight than quit.
You know you could be in the bed for several weeks unable to eat or drink in intense pain just waiting for death from starvation/dehydration. This is what this woman had to look forward to and why she chose to take the pills.
A dirty little medical secret that doctors don't tell is sometimes they help people out by morphining them to death in this state, so they can pass away instead of dealing with weeks of absolute torture.
It's a hell that I hope you or someone in your family doesn't have deal with for you to open your mind to why these people do what they do.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 6:40 am
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