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re: The more you know about EV the more you wonder if we were really ready for this change.

Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:28 am to
Every post you make like this reinforces OPs point. It hysterical
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12818 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:30 am to
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Every post you make like this reinforces OPs point. It hysterical
That's fine, I really don't care to refute his point only peoples complete lack of technical knowledge on capabilities and how these things work.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4842 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:33 am to
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billjamin


Oh so now you are a beta tester and have all this advanced prototype shite that no one else has which includes 40 effing kilowatts of alternate power at ur effing residence? I hope everyone in this thread sees just how full of shite you are. Let me guess, you bypass the charging port, which would throw up error code after error code, and you hook up right into 440 volts to "intercept"? Full of shite.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:33 am to
Thank you for teaching us
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12818 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:40 am to
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Oh so now you are a beta tester and have all this advanced prototype shite that no one else has which includes 40 effing kilowatts of alternate power at ur effing residence?

I'm not a beta tester, I do technical diligence for energy finance deals. I hire the DNVs, B&Vs etc. to do technology review for banks to invest in energy projects. In the process of that at times we need to test something and several years ago when I was working for one of the larger solar asset managers I put a big ground mount at my wife's ranch. It's since been used to test the IQ8 and enphase storage integration, PowerWall2 (doing long term high load degradation testing), and now this new inverter for SE because one of the asset managers who works with a bank wants to put it in a tax equity portfolio (ignoring the fact that with the new legislation this might be a moot point) And btw this isn't' even that new. SE made an inverter with a "solar boost" years ago. This is the next iteration of that one which even that infantile attempt performed better than what you've indicated. That's also ignoring Siemens and the other companies that make DC chargers but I'm trying not to break your brain too much.
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Let me guess, you bypass the charging port, which would throw up error code after error code, and you hook up right into 440 volts to "intercept"? Full of shite.
No dipshit it plugs in. Tesla signed off on this before they ever developed anything.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 11:48 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69157 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:48 am to
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In the process of that at times we need to test something and several years ago when I was working for one of the larger solar asset managers I put a big ground mount at my wife's ranch.



Here’s your problem. I don’t work for a solar company nor do I have a wife’s ranch to put such a thing up.

You literally are not the average American that you are pushing this nonsense on.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12818 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:51 am to
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You literally are not the average American that you are pushing this nonsense on.
Here's your problem. I'm not pushing it. I'm only refuting inaccurate information about the technology. I honestly don't give a shite about adoption, only that people can have an honest conversation about the pros and cons.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35221 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:52 am to
yeah people that have bars protecting their window units are totes gonna leave a generator out, unprotected.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4842 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:56 am to
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Here's your problem. I'm not pushing it. I'm only refuting inaccurate information about the technology. I honestly don't give a shite about adoption, only that people can have an honest conversation about the pros and cons.


This is where you should put the shovel down and stop digging. Look around, poster after poster is questioning your full of shitness. I knew if I kept you yapping that you would eventually start claiming you have access to all this Google prototype shite that 99.9999% of us don't have access to. Like Sun God said, you are just proving the OP's point but you can't let go of the proverbial shovel.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6884 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:56 am to
The cost to redo our electrical infrastructure to support widespread EV deployment is going to be a MASSIVE cost.

Think about the cost of installing chargers at every parking spot at your standard apartment complex. Besides the physical cost of the equipment and installation to support 100 chargers, what about the need to upgrade the electrical distribution system in the apartment complex? One hundred chargers pulling 30amps of 240v power will take a lot of juice.

You can't just plug an EV into the 120-wall outlet and get charged overnight


So, yes we will need more generation capacity, but we'll also need more distribution capacity as well.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 11:58 am
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12818 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:01 pm to
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I knew if I kept you yapping that you would eventually start claiming you have access to all this Google prototype shite that 99.9999% of us don't have access to
Then tell me how the OG SE, that anyone can go buy, outperforms what you indicated. Ignore my "Google prototype shite" and explain that.
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Like Sun God said, you are just proving the OP's point but you can't let go of the proverbial shovel.
Let me say this again, I don't give a frick about his point. I'm simply here to point out that your original pint about not being able to charge an EV from PV is false.
Get an Ev, don't get an EV. I really don't give a frick. I personally don't' like them which is why I'm keeping my GX and E-98 drinking GT-R. But I can have an honest conversation about them and have plenty of experience with the tech from work.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4842 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:10 pm to
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Let me say this again, I don't give a frick about his point. I'm simply here to point out that your original pint about not being able to charge an EV from PV is false.


But you can't, not in any reliable, cost effective and efficient way for 99.9999999% of us. Oh and pics of wife on ranch? For research and beta testing purposes of course.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11847 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:21 pm to
I guess the money you save by not paying for gas you should set aside and save up for battery replacement? I wonder what’s the life span on these batteries?
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5154 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:22 pm to
Just wait until a major hurricane forces evacuations to and from major population centers. The ensuing traffic jam is going to be a real eye opener for EV drivers. There will be dead EVs everywhere.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38428 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:26 pm to
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I just wanna know how the poor folk who drive a 90s Camry is gonna be able to afford a new EV and then afford to have a home charger installed at their rental home/apartment


They won't but the people that believe all of those things need to be forced onto people don't know those kinds of people.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4842 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:31 pm to
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There will be dead EVs everywhere.


You're forgetting about Whole Foods and the whopping 2 parking spots they have for EV's Can you imagine, 100 cars deep at 45-60 minutes per full charge lol.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
13703 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:37 pm to
I am not really interested in an EV, but I see it as something that would work in certain areas, especially large cities (where people dont drive long distances and there are problems with smog).

But the lack of infrastructure will keep it from happening. We simply cant generate enough power for them and even if we could our current transmission lines and substations cant handle it. Those needs must be addressed first.

Many of the electrical grids in use today were built in the 60's and 70's. Homes and businesses used far less power then. And in many areas where there were 20 houses there are now 150 apartments. This added population density has the current hardware stressed.

If the government really wanted to put money into infrastructure they should allow more nuclear power plants, and incentivize power companies to upgrade their lines. Not in windmills and solar. Neither of those will ever meet the demand.

It will also take time for homeowners to have the added plugs installed in their garages too.

It cannot happen overnight. That is the problem with things currently.

Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3592 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:39 pm to
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just wanna know how the poor folk who drive a 90s Camry is gonna be able to afford a new EV and then afford to have a home charger installed at their rental home/apartment


You’re going to pay for the government to pay for it.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
8574 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:52 pm to
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I'm only here to shoot down incorrect talking points people get from Twitter and Facebook.

I thought you were here to make fun of OP just for bringing up this topic? Can you please get your story straight?
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 12:53 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12818 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 1:06 pm to
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I thought you were here to make fun of OP just for bringing up this topic? Can you please get your story straight?
You bullied me into adding substance.
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