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re: The fact that we have to have a "March for Science" is frightening

Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:21 am to
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:21 am to
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I guess the solution is to burn down the government and kill all the idiots.


Hey wait a minute, I work for the government. Not all of us are bad...lmao!

Seriously, can you spare my office? I've got a lot of work to do. Lol!
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:22 am to
It originated from trump cutting funding of NIH etc to pay for neocon bulshit like walls and missiles.

Tell me which matters more
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:23 am to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:25 am to
If I oppose taxpayer funding for science, does that mean I oppose science? What if my dislike of government is greater than my like of science?

Should we have a March for sports because the government doesn't fund it?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26637 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:26 am to
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Don't worry, pretty soon we'll have Brawndo to take care of all our problems.


It's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:26 am to
That's where it started - everything else in this thread is a circle jerk.

And yes govts should fund science over war
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124144 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:28 am to
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Seriously, can you spare my office? I've got a lot of work to do. Lol!


Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:30 am to
I'm not Dave...I'm the employee of the month (may be lost on most here).
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124144 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:30 am to
Yeah...except this is what they are deeming science.



They aren't going to mars. They are cutting their wieners off and saying they are ladies now.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98974 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:30 am to
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It originated from trump cutting funding of NIH etc to pay for neocon bulshit like walls and missiles.



It did. Unfortunately it's been super politicized by both sides to be entirely something else.

Which is incredibly sad because of the importance to public health of the NIH, University/College research, etc. that is all publicly funded and is on the chopping block.
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 11:32 am
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26637 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:31 am to
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Tell a liberal you are against abortion because you are on the side of science. Looking at the science of reproduction, how can you not conclude that abortion is murder?

A huge inconvenient truth for the pro-abortion crowd.


Yep. Once the egg is fertilized, an entirely unique DNA signature is created. That makes it a unique individual, meaning a body separate, though attached, from the mother.

The next time a woman screeches about it being "her body" remind her that abortion doesn't destroy "her" body, just the baby's. I promise the argument will go to a different issue with the quickness.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:31 am to
Indeed
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:31 am to
Here's the issue: from an economic standpoint, national defense is something that cannot exist without taxpayer money. Why? Because it's the most striking example of a public good. Public goods are goods that are non-rival in consumption, which means one person using it cannot restrict another person from doing so. This makes a market for national defense impossible- a firm would not be able to charge all the people who use its service. Taxes solve that issue.

Science, on the other hand, is NOT rival in consumption.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:34 am to
Public health matters less than "muh Mexican wall"

Pls go
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:35 am to
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Since when did science become the enemy? When it told us things we didn't want to hear?


Because the redneck right is anti-science. They are told it's political, believe the narrative, and are completing a self-fulfilling prophecy by making it political.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:37 am to
people will march for anything.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:37 am to
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Science, on the other hand, is NOT rival in consumption.


How many consumers do you know that would pay money to have pygmy rattlesnake population studies done?

Managing natural resources should be partly handled by the market with government oversight
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72063 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:38 am to
Have you seen the reasons for this march? None of it is science. Also, let's not get into the rejection of biology by the progressives.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:38 am to
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Public health matters less than "muh Mexican wall"

Pls go


Please explain to me the characteristics of science that make it non-rival in consumption and non-excludable, the two factors that determine whether a good is public or not.

Shouldn't we monitor whether monies going to "science" are not going to BS things?
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 11:39 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124144 posts
Posted on 4/22/17 at 11:39 am to
Be honest, how mismanaged was the NIH or most other government agencies? The problem is bureaucratic bloat, corruption and inefficiency.

Maybe if there weren't so many studies on why trannies don't get periods or other inane shite they wouldn't be on the chopping block.
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