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re: The fact that we have to have a "March for Science" is frightening
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:09 pm to Superior Pariah
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:09 pm to Superior Pariah
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Since when did science become the enemy? When it told us things we didn't want to hear?
Science bad
Made up religions
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Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:51 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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Scientists are just another group that feels persecuted
Well, when you have a president that:
Puts a gag order on the EPA.
Goes from a renowned physicist to... Rick Perry for Dept of Energy.
Reverse years of environmental progress with a few strokes of a pen because not being able to pollute the environment is apparently bad for business.
Put emphasis on coal... fricking coal.
Propose to cut a massive chunk out of the National Institue for Health.
Things like that... it's easy to see why the scientific community is feeling "persecuted."
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:56 pm to Superior Pariah
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A very clearly biased blog. The author, ironically, highlights confirmation bias.
there is no way that you read that whole article in the time it took you to make this response
that and a comment about your confirmation bias with your response of "confirmation bias" adds a double layer of ironing
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Please stop confusing what a bunch of college hippies are doing versus what an actual scientist is doing in a lab
those people attack "real science" and limit what "real science" can study, though
for a good example of a liberal who does "real science" and is attacked by progs, see: Gad Saad
and those "college hippies" are just being sheep to the academic elite i referenced, parroting the bullshite they're taught
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:57 pm to Superior Pariah
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It seems to me all the responses are a bunch of butt hurt towards the transgender movement. Pretty sure Neil Degrasse Tyson, Bill Nye et al aren't marching for that.
yeah...
Posted on 4/22/17 at 1:58 pm to Scruffy
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Since some people conflate science with climate change and others reject the biology of the sexes. Science, as with this march, has become a political weapon. It is absurd. Also, Sociology isn't a science.
Scruffy
took the words out of my mouth. Plus the sociology part I completely agree
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:00 pm to Superior Pariah
quote:The second it was conceived in man's mind. Science is a branch of humanism; humanism is the core of how mankind goes wrong.
Since when did science become the enemy
quote:Like when science said the earth is flat? like when science said the atom is the smallest thing? All science proves is man is constantly wrong bc science is frequently changing.
When it told us things we didn't want to hear?
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:03 pm to Superior Pariah
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"March for Science"
I hear that is how Edison got his inspiration.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:04 pm to airfernando
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Like when science said the earth is flat? like when science said the atom is the smallest thing? All science proves is man is constantly wrong bc science is frequently changing.
in an objective setting, science is self-correctable, which is why it's such a great tool
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:05 pm to Superior Pariah
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Since when did science become the enemy?
When it became politicized. When an orthodoxy about numerous subjects that still have many unknown variables became required beliefs for any researcher to be considered acceptable.
When it became about millions in grants and researchers realized that studying global issues that could be catastrophized brought in more dollars than research into the glucose concentration preference of the Ruby throated humming bird during Spring in the Gulf South.
Don't act like even half of those "scientists" have anything but their own self-interests in mind with this march.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:09 pm to Superior Pariah
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Things like that... it's easy to see why the scientific community is feeling "persecuted
What a drama queen.
Science isn't under attack. Nye and Tyson are self promoting blowhards in this regard
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Criticizing science for being a learning, changing thing that does not pretend to be omniscient and have all the answers upon first glance (like religion does) is absolutely the most ignorant and moronic thing ever, and I don't think that is an exaggeration.
Eta: also, just an aside, science told us literally thousands of years ago that the world is round. The Greeks were some impressive people.
This post was edited on 4/22/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:19 pm to Superior Pariah
It hasn't become an enemy
Just that today's society doesn't give a shot about basic science
Just that today's society doesn't give a shot about basic science
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:22 pm to airfernando
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All science proves is man is constantly wrong bc science is frequently changing.
Or, in a nonpessimistic, less bitchy way of looking at it, it proves that mankind is always learning about the universe.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:28 pm to airfernando
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Like when science said the earth is flat? like when science said the atom is the smallest thing? All science proves is man is constantly wrong bc science is frequently changing.
So the earth was once flat but became round?
Regardless, this just wrong. Science is frequently evolving.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:30 pm to fr33manator
Hahaha holy shite is that a real tweet stating what they're marching for? If that really is the lost, do you think the OP knew that when he started this thread. I'm an engineer and have basically dedicated my entire career to STEM. If you think any of that bullshite is true science then you don't know jack shite about science.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:36 pm to Superior Pariah
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Science is frequently evolving.
on a meta level, i think you're missing this
if we talk about supporting "science" as this method/ideal, then that's one thing
you're being much more active in your support, though, and you're supporting current scientific results to justify your personal/political beliefs. just like, though science, we changed fundamental beliefs about our world (like it being round instead of flat), the data you rely upon as your current foundation also may face a similar change over time.
like i said, the fact that "science" (more specifically, some scientific results) has become political AND the fact that science faces some serious reproductability issues and fundamental biases in terms of the methods used and availability of review/publication, makes it very arrogant to take this position
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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there is no way that you read that whole article in the time it took you to make this response
that and a comment about your confirmation bias with your response of "confirmation bias" adds a double layer of ironing
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In sociology, where the ratio is 44 to 1, a student is much likelier to be taught by a Marxist than by a Republican.
I'm sorry, I can't take the author seriously when he uses ridiculous buzzwords like "Marxist."
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:38 pm to TitleistProV1X
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I'm an engineer and have basically dedicated my entire career to STEM. If you think any of that bullshite is true science then you don't know jack shite about science.
and Scruffy is a doctor and also a man of science in terms of education and profession
but, OP, a journalist or other media member, is in a position to lecture Scruffy on science
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:39 pm to Superior Pariah
Science is nothing more than the systematic study of the physical world and predictions based on the results. Those predictions are often wrong because science grows and testing methods improve.
It's not anti science to question those outcomes. There's nothing sacred about science.
It's not anti science to question those outcomes. There's nothing sacred about science.
Posted on 4/22/17 at 2:40 pm to Superior Pariah
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I'm sorry, I can't take the author seriously when he uses ridiculous buzzwords like "Marxist."
why?
i was taught by Marxists at LSU
for example, i only took one sociology class, but that instructor (he wasn't a prof) was certainly on the verge of Marxism in class (i can only imagine his private beliefs behind the veil of a classroom)
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