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re: The DEA is changing all HydroCODONE strengths to controlled 2 class
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:20 pm to tigermike200444
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:20 pm to tigermike200444
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It must have been in law already because in April I had to stop by the doc to get a refill after trying to get pharmacy to call it in! They told me I had to go back to doc
they either lied to you at the pharmacy, or the refill request was denied by the physician and they told the pharmacy you needed to be seen before they give you refills....
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Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:20 pm to LSULyle00690
I've never gotten a refill scrip when I got those. Always just 1. But 1 bottle is plenty enough for me
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:24 pm to lsu480
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I've been told heroin is WAY cheaper than prescription painkillers.
You also have no idea how pure it is or what else you may be getting in it. Something that's centrally-regulated will almost always be more expensive than something that's not. The former will also have much better quality control.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:28 pm to LSULyle00690
Good. It's about time they do something. I've got rental properties and see the pill heads first hand. Getting sick of cops busting college kids smoking weed while the pill epidemic is all around us.
I've had two pill head tenants and they are fricking nightmares. One tried to steal my washer dryer and oven.
I've had two pill head tenants and they are fricking nightmares. One tried to steal my washer dryer and oven.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:28 pm to Hopeful Doc
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I've been told heroin is WAY cheaper than prescription painkillers.
You also have no idea how pure it is or what else you may be getting in it. Something that's centrally-regulated will almost always be more expensive than something that's not. The former will also have much better quality control.
Heroin is way cheaper... and unintentional overdoses will increase as "doctor shoppers" ultimately turn to the streets for their fix... that world is completely foreign to people that are addicted to pills...
this is the unfortunate unintended side effect of cracking down on pharmaceutical opiates.... the DEA thinks this will simply go away if you limit or make it harder to get.... sure, prescription drug abuse may decrease, but a majority WILL turn to something else...
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:29 pm to stout
What does hydrocodone do? I thought these helped wean people into getting sober.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:31 pm to chRxis
Legalize weed. Take the taxes and pay to rehab pill heads,heroin, etc addicts.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:33 pm to Cajun Revolution
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What does hydrocodone do?
opiate analgesic for mild to moderate pain
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I thought these helped wean people into getting sober.
that would be Subutex or Suboxone.... which helps get people off opiates, like hydrocodone....
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:33 pm to chRxis
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you know the drill.... pics?
She lurks some and posts here rarely maybe you should ask her, I'm sure she will be happy to
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:33 pm to chRxis
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the DEA thinks this will simply go away if you limit or make it harder to get.... sure, prescription drug abuse may decrease, but a majority WILL turn to something else...
It's an unfortunate predictable outcome. Sadly, there's all the talk about "send them to rehab, not jail," but the majority of addicts I've met want nothing to do with rehab when it is offered to them, even if it's covered by insurance/Medicaid. That's not to suggest that jail is the right answer, either, but the "send them to rehab and reform them" camp really may not be all that much more effective.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:34 pm to Camp Randall
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rehab pill heads,heroin, etc addicts.
You can't rehabilitate the unwilling.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:36 pm to Camp Randall
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Legalize weed.
this is the answer to the problem, but it will likely never happen at the federal level...
however, if you look at places that have legalized marijuana, the amount of "hard" drugs consumed is very low... there is a direct correlation between the two....
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:36 pm to bencoleman
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She lurks some and posts here rarely maybe you should ask her, I'm sure she will be happy to
it was just a joke, easy money....
i already got 'em anyway....
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:37 pm to chRxis
I don't understand this pill phenomenon. Why do they even dispense these to people if the abuse is so common. In other words, why are these so easily obtained?
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:38 pm to chRxis
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places that have legalized marijuana, the amount of "hard" drugs consumed is very low
Devil's Advocate:
How do you quantify the amount of "hard" drugs consumed in a population?
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:38 pm to Hopeful Doc
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That's not to suggest that jail is the right answer, either, but the "send them to rehab and reform them" camp really may not be all that much more effective.
mandatory naltrexone therapy would though.....
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:39 pm to Cajun Revolution
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Why do they even dispense these to people if the abuse is so common. In other words, why are these so easily obtained?
because it takes 5 secs to write the script rather than lecture the patient on why narcotics are bad for them.
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:41 pm to Cajun Revolution
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Why do they even dispense these to people if the abuse is so common
because when used properly, they are effective pain relievers for those in need of acute/chronic pain relief.... sometimes Advil and Tylenol just don't cut it, jack...
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why are these so easily obtained?
it's not easy for practitioners to quantify "pain".... and as such, it's easier to trust the patient's word about how much "pain" they are in, and giving them a prescription to ease their "pain"...
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:42 pm to Hopeful Doc
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How do you quantify the amount of "hard" drugs consumed in a population?
number of drug related arrests, overdosage counts by hospital, amounts seized upon raids, etc....
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:43 pm to chRxis
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mandatory naltrexone therapy would though.....
I agree. But you will almost certainly never live to see the day that any medication is required for a person who isn't an acute danger to themselves or others. And there will be almost no long-term compliance with oral therapy out of the rehab/acute setting.
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