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re: Texas economy is cratering

Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:21 am to
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
61886 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:21 am to
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I'm hoping I can use this as an opportunity to buy a good jacked-up truck and a nice house in laffy for cheap


I picked up an Audi Q5 and F-150 within the last month
Posted by TexasTiger1984
Houston
Member since Sep 2009
1375 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:21 am to
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Saudi isn't doing this for the hell of it. It's a plan that will easily make the money back that they are losing with the current per barrel prices.


The US is more to blame for the oversupply (which is overstated) than the saudis. All they did was decide not to cut production to keep prices propped up. It's the US that has been pumping more and more oil. Why is it the Saudis responsibility to cut production to keep prices high? I know it's what they've done in the past but they have no responsibility to continue to do so.

And i work in the o/g business btw
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:24 am to
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Cosmo


What field of work are you in?
Posted by Tommy Wayne
Member since Apr 2009
208 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:24 am to
Hard to feel sorry for CEO's making 20-40 million a year salaries. I mean what the frick? What human is worth that much money? And to laugh at the regular joes struggling to make ends meet when gas prices are up. The industry is full of waste top to bottom.

Chevron CEO salary-$22.2 million
Conocophillips salary-$19.3 million
Exxon Ceo-$40.9 million thats $20k an hour for those counting.
Posted by TexasTiger1984
Houston
Member since Sep 2009
1375 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:27 am to
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Hard to feel sorry for CEO's making 20-40 million a year salaries


I'm not disagreeing that salaries for CEO's are ridiculous but you're a dumbass if you think it's only O/G CEOs making that type of money.

Go look at any large company in IT, Pharm or any other industry and you'll see the same trend.

Forbes Top 10 CEO Pay 2013
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 11:28 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60140 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:27 am to
Nobody feels sorry for the CEOs. They will continue to make a ton of money regardless. It's the "regular joes" who work in the industry that are losing their jobs that I do feel for, it's a circumstance of the industry though
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47128 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:30 am to
Sure, projects that are too far along to hold/cancel are moving forward.

The $14 billion GTL projects is dead for now.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:32 am to
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It could definitely hurt Houston. Not in a Detroit kind of way, but it could be quite a bump.


Could? Sure. You're already seeing it affect real estate insofar as stuff isn't selling like hotcakes anymore and a lot of developer financing has halted for new projects. Projects in progress are still going, though. Unless oil doesn't recover at all, Houston will be fine.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:35 am to
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The US is more to blame for the oversupply (which is overstated) than the saudis. All they did was decide not to cut production to keep prices propped up. It's the US that has been pumping more and more oil. Why is it the Saudis responsibility to cut production to keep prices high? I know it's what they've done in the past but they have no responsibility to continue to do so.


Well, to be fair, a lot of what Saudi is doing is not to screw over the US, whose economy is way too diversified to really feel the sting of a low price per barrel, but to screw over the other OPEC countries, including Iran. Additionally, it is probably being encouraged by U.S. foreign policy so as to make it even harder on Russia.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:35 am to
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What human is worth that much money


When that human is able to run a business and create more profit, of course they can be. Most of the time, the bulk of thier payouts are in stock options. If he/she makes the company run better, they make more. The CEO's for the both cmpanys I have worked for make as much as Chevrons and CP, just to use examples you posted, and I am nowhere newar the O&G field.
Posted by abitabrewed4LSU
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2009
1078 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:35 am to
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Tommy Wayne


There is so much stupid in your posts.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7721 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:38 am to
Chevron CEO overseas a company with 64k employees with revenue of 210+ billion dollars, 22 million dollar salary is nothing, and probably his market value id assume

Drew Brees makes that plus endorsements due to his market value, i love hearing success stories in whatever field
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10911 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:41 am to
The DFW area is so diverse now I honestly don't see a big short or long term impact. The Dallas banking sector used to rely heavily on west Texas O&G but times have changed.

Just take one example, Plano. It's the HQ for Toyota (cheap gas is good), YUM restaurants, Pizza Hut, JC Penney, and Frito-Lay... to name a few.

Midland/Odessa will continue to get hammered though. Hey, a great time to buy that weekend vacay home in the scenic permian basin.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98171 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:42 am to
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When that human is able to run a business and create more profit, of course they can be. Most of the time, the bulk of thier payouts are in stock options. If he/she makes the company run better, they make more. The CEO's for the both cmpanys I have worked for make as much as Chevrons and CP, just to use examples you posted, and I am nowhere newar the O&G field.


That's how it works in theory. In practice, they get paid regardless. The men who crashed Wall Street and destroyed their banks walked away with tens of millions.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7721 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:45 am to
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The men who crashed Wall Street and destroyed their banks walked away with tens of millions.






This is a another issue, big oil didn't crash wall street
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:45 am to
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The men who crashed Wall Street and destroyed their banks walked away with tens of millions.


They were basically criminals though imo and were not in a consumer based operation. Different than most companies CEO's. About 75% of Exxons CEOs compensation is stock options. If they stock suffers, he makes less and vice versa.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21206 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:50 am to
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Oh is this when i answer you pull out some cliche oil field wit that the trash finds funny or booming?


You're the one who used the term "big oil".

But I guess this is where you deflect because you don't know what the frick you're talking about.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21760 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:50 am to
LINK

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Exxon Mobil reported a quarterly profit of nearly $16 billion Thursday -- the highest ever for a U.S. corporation.

The number beat out the previous quarterly record of $14.83 billion set in the third quarter of 2008, also by Exxon.


Probably should have put some of that money aside...I can assure you that none of the executives are losing their 7/8 figure a year jobs...just their working bees
Posted by McCaigBro69
TigerDroppings Premium Member
Member since Oct 2014
45086 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:51 am to
People always say this, but I'm not going to worry until I have to pawn my Xbox One for gas or have to live on the street. Let me know when it gets that bad.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21760 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:55 am to
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People always say this, but I'm not going to worry until I have to pawn my Xbox One for gas or have to live on the street. Let me know when it gets that bad.


I have no issue paying for gas either. That is not the point. The point is, the oil companies raked in massive profits during a US depression, and now they are whining and complaining about the price of oil...so frick them
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